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Old 07-19-2008, 02:57 PM
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if we started a companion forum for women that covered HRT and related health issues, such as anti-aging medicine and rejuvenation techniques, would we get enough attention to make the effort worthwhile? We do have a female nurse practicioner who has started posting. I hope that some of you have picked up on her presence. BTW, I've looked her credentials and work history. She's the real deal.

Anyhow, give me some feedback on a companion forum for women.
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Audio: Diana Schwarzbein, MD - Menopause — A Symphony of Hormone Interactions - Women's Health, Women's Health - Integrative Practitioner

Audio: Menopause - A Symphony of Hormone Interactions
Diana Schwarzbein, MD explores the connections to insulin, cortisol and thyroid hormones as well as the connections between the sex hormones themselves.

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My notes:

fast acting membrane receptors, seconds to minutes
nuclear receptors, slow acting, hours
all steroid hormones have membrane and nuclear receptors

Binding and unbinding is desirable.
Daily high doses of any hormone may not be apropriate.

High triglycerides may hog communication and need to be adjusted before thyroid (T3) hormone work properly.

Not always hormone issue, may be receptor issue (bad fats).

When at higher levels, most hormones downregulate their own receptors.

Progesterone and estrodial are closely related.
Need enough estrodial for progesterone to work.
Progesterone improves estrodial signals.

Testosterone & progesterone compete for 5ar, high progesterone may lower DHT.

She thinks of study to rub progesterone cream on men's scalp to see if it helps in hair loss.

Cortisol (+), progesterone(-) on aromatase production,
more cortisol promotes production of aromatase and E2
more progesterone hinders production of aromatase (less E2)

Cortisol traping, progesterone increases active cortisol.

Skipping meals raises cortisol.
frequent meals lower cortisol

Stress raises cortisol then raises estrogen (not when AF)

Progesterone decreases insuline
Estrogen increases insuline (insuline sensitizing)

Pogesterone supplementation must not be continouos, must be cycled

Normal response to low E2 should be that cortisol is high

T3 --> increases progesterone

E2 (low) helps T3
E2 (high) antagonist to T3

PXR

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thanks for the referral to a very interesting site. I'll probably join. However, dear friend, please answer my question. Would we be gain any traction among women by adding a forum here?
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I would definetly be interested as in my wife's words whenever something goes wrong with her health or training, "Just fix me."

I am already very interested on the progesterone cycling as my wife is on a low dose of progesterone for 3 weeks of the month.
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This would fill a definite need, particularly with a knowledgeable moderator.
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thanks for the referral to a very interesting site. I'll probably join. However, dear friend, please answer my question. Would we be gain any traction among women by adding a forum here?
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I think it's a great idea. However, to speak for myself and my wife, the site might be too intimidating. My wife is not into bodybuilding at all and I think she might get the impressions from the style template of the site that it is for only bodybuilders. Even though I can explain to her different, if she is going to actually participate in the forum on a routine basis it will have to look more feminine and be well moderated to keep the perverts out.....just my 2 cents
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I think it's a great idea. However, to speak for myself and my wife, the site might be too intimidating. My wife is not into bodybuilding at all and I think she might get the impressions from the style template of the site that it is for only bodybuilders. Even though I can explain to her different, if she is going to actually participate in the forum on a routine basis it will have to look more feminine and be well moderated to keep the perverts out.....just my 2 cents
Thanks for the feedback. I have heard this criticism before. Honestly, when I began my search for information on HRT back in 2002, I didn't find anything outside of the steroid/ bodybuilding boards. My first post was on bodybuilding.com. They had no forum for HRT. cem.com was developing a forum and Swale was getting his start. I wouldn't think of starting a forum here unless I could get a knowledgeable practicioner to show up occasionally. I was thinking that the spouses of current members would be or could be interested. My wife, like many of you, looks to me to help with the labs,etc. On the other hand, a knowledgeable moderator can post relevant references for reading or redirection to other sites.

When I am on my game, I edit out offensive material from the forum. Many have alerted me to such. And that helps.
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I think my wife would be up for it. I have told her several times she probably has hormone problems but she won't go to the Dr. about it. If she started reading stuff here, she might decide to do something about it.
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Hi Guys: I will admit I was very reluctant to sign on. I like the muscles up close and personal bu the graphics are a bit intimidating at first glance and it took a while to read through the posts that interested me most.
What impressed me most in my practice and on this forum is how many people suffer with no one to advise or even allow expression and unfortunately too many take matters into their own hands and risk their health and some go to medical practitioners and dont do their own dudiligence also just as risky.
I joined to learn more about male issues. I want to fix the body, keep it at optimal functioning in the most natural methods possible with as limited pharmaceutical drugs in the metabolic pathways as possible. Women just as men have different goals. I like the discussions here. What was it that the famous Margaret Mead said?

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P.S Jan Z I logged onto that link and have to await my access approval. Looking forward to it.
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i am just starting to understand women's hormones because my fiancee is going through it. The dr I took her too was impressed that I presented the case with all the tests laid. He just had to order the test for progesterone and estrodial and that was all she wrote. Once I saw the results, i knew that I was right and she was extremely estrogen domaint. I was going to start her on calcium d glucurate, but I wanted to make sure. I also had her with adrenal hyperfunction over a year ago based upon her clincial psychologoical symptoms and physical symptoms, but as always was stubburn. Her thyroid was fine but due to the imbalnace it was not being utlized properly and resulted in huge fat gain despite supplements, proper diet, and exercise. Red flags went off and light bulb went on. The Dr was top notch and told me that I make his job a piece of cake. I know estrogen domaince and progesterone imbalnace pretty good now. Shit her progesterone was .7 in range of 7-? in luteual phase. Her primary dr looked at the results and told her that she was perfect and nothing wrong. When she called me with results I knew what it was and the dr was a fucken moron..I wonder how many other women get check ups and slip through the cracks. The blood test has to be taken on day 17-22 after the peroid during the luteul phase not any other time for identifying estrogen domince.
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I vote for HAN to be the moderator of the new forum!!!
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i accept.
I think the forum may be more males wondering if their female counter parts are having issues LOL
So indirectly the males would be educating the females which over time will bring more women to this board. And also to the women seeking help may also notice some problems that their male counter parts may be having in men's forum. Surprising you have not idea how many females magazing i read to see what women are really thinking and how to expect them to react in given situations as well as to better understand these mysterious creatures. Women's mind change faster then a baby needs changing diaper in a day.
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