Men's Health Forum: This is a discussion on 250mg T not enough? within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; Sustanon should be ok, it still needs to be injected frequently for best results in my opinion....
OK... my mistake. You are right Saxon. Great link by the way.
So you all agree that I need to do 1 thing: convince my doc to precribe WEEKLY injections at about 100mgs?? Man, that's going to be so tough: it is unheard off here in Europe... Most of the docs still think Sustanon is a wonderdrug over here... Yep, most of the so-called specialists still have their heads up their asses...
Anyhow: does anybody have an indea on how I can raise my SHBG? I still believe it might be the cause for my low testosterone....
I can't remember if I told you this or not but I was on gels and shots did your ever think to ask for Testogel and stay on your shots. I did this for a long time and as for E2 every thing I tried I needed to take some thing for high E2.
From what I remember if your SHBG is higher it binds T and keeps Free T down.
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As I understand it, your SHBG is low because your body uses it to regulate how much free T you have in your system. Since T binds to SHBG at a fairly consistent rate when you are low on T your body will drive down SHBG so that less of it is available to bind to T. The less T bound to proteins (SHBG being the major one) the more free T that is circulating in your system. The only way I’ve ever heard, and someone can correct me if I’m wrong, to drive up SHBG is to drive up your T levels so your free T gets higher. This should cause your system to create more SHBG in order to drive down your Free T levels back down. Other than that I don’t know of any other way to get SHBG up but I’d love to know if anyone has a method for doing this as my SHBG is low too.
Matt, I agree with you 100%. However, T enanthate has a slightly longer half life than T cypionate. So 7 days cyp should be approximately the same as 10 days enanthate, don't you agree??
No.
- Half life of serum testosterone (not serum testosterone ester) is more like 5-6 days for each
- Above half life is not linear
- For all practical purposes, cyp and enan have the same half life. They are that similar.
OK... my mistake. You are right Saxon. Great link by the way.
So you all agree that I need to do 1 thing: convince my doc to precribe WEEKLY injections at about 100mgs?? Man, that's going to be so tough: it is unheard off here in Europe... Most of the docs still think Sustanon is a wonderdrug over here... Yep, most of the so-called specialists still have their heads up their asses...
Anyhow: does anybody have an indea on how I can raise my SHBG? I still believe it might be the cause for my low testosterone....
I agree that this is what needs to be done, though being in Europe, as you say, it's is going to likely be a tough process. Possibly direct your doctor to SWALE's web site (www.allthingsmale.com) and also have pre-printed out SWALE's protocol for TRT for men. Play on his ego and convince him that doing TRT "the right way" could put him at the top of the pyramid in his whole regional area and having andorpause / hypogonadal males flocking to see him.
Also, would not be overly concerned with the low SHBG. I think that it will correct itself as your T levels improve. A lower level (within reason) of SHBG seems to be better actually as it keeps the Free Testosterone levels (the active, "useable" form of T) at higher levels... And I note that many TRT males have the problem with too high of SHBG which can result in having decent levels of Total T and poor levels of Free T.
Matt, I agree with you 100%. However, T enanthate has a slightly longer half life than T cypionate. So 7 days cyp should be approximately the same as 10 days enanthate, don't you agree??
Well I think all the boys here answered this for you before I could.
Im on primoteston which comes as 250mg of enanthate/ML. I was using 125mgs a week and that was too much. I dropped that to 100 and had major improvements. Now im trying biweekly injections, plus 100iu of hcg the day before each shot... I think perhaps 40 mgs every 3 days would be even better, now that I have added the hcg.
However the problem i face now is trying to measure that in only 1 ml of Oil. I really need to dilute it further. Enanthate does not come in a lower dose concentration here in Australia.
I've read that low SHBG and low T are under discussion. The discussion is: "what was the cause and what was the result"?
It is common believe that low T will result in the body adapting to it, thus lowering SHBG to maintain free T at acceptable levels.
Some say the reaction is also possible the other way round: low SHBG will result in the body producing less T, to maintain free T at acceptable levels.
So: this statement "could" mean that increasing SHBG will result in the body increasing total T to maintain free T in acceptable levels.......... This is the discussion that is currently beeing held (if only I rembered where I've read this, I could post a link to this article. I'll keep looking).
In attachment you'll see different modulators that increase or decrease SHBG.
"Could" we play with these modulators to increase SHBG, and, as a result, convince the body to produce more total T?????
I've read that low SHBG and low T are under discussion. The discussion is: "what was the cause and what was the result"?
It is common believe that low T will result in the body adapting to it, thus lowering SHBG to maintain free T at acceptable levels.
Some say the reaction is also possible the other way round: low SHBG will result in the body producing less T, to maintain free T at acceptable levels.
So: this statement "could" mean that increasing SHBG will result in the body increasing total T to maintain free T in acceptable levels.......... This is the discussion that is currently beeing held (if only I rembered where I've read this, I could post a link to this article. I'll keep looking).
In attachment you'll see different modulators that increase or decrease SHBG.
"Could" we play with these modulators to increase SHBG, and, as a result, convince the body to produce more total T?????
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