Accutane? Anyone Purchased Online

[pals2000]

Has anyone purchased accutane online? My doctor said i was prime for accutane bc my back is broke out so bad but to get a RX, you have to go through mental evals, blood tests, and the prescription itself is almost 500monthly. I was hoping to order online from canada or overseas to get it cheaper and without the RX . But i'm not sure what sites are legit or not . I figure its legal to purchase bc my elderly neighbors all purchase their prescription drugs from canada but need RX's. They all recieve theirs within days. Let me know what you guys know. Thanks

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by pals2000

Has anyone purchased accutane online? My doctor said i was prime for accutane bc my back is broke out so bad but to get a RX, you have to go through mental evals, blood tests, and the prescription itself is almost 500monthly. I was hoping to order online from canada or overseas to get it cheaper and without the RX . But i'm not sure what sites are legit or not . I figure its legal to purchase bc my elderly neighbors all purchase their prescription drugs from canada but need RX's. They all recieve theirs within days. Let me know what you guys know. Thanks

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[plymouth city]

Originally Posted by pals2000

Has anyone purchased accutane online? My doctor said i was prime for accutane bc my back is broke out so bad but to get a RX, you have to go through mental evals, blood tests, and the prescription itself is almost 500monthly. I was hoping to order online from canada or overseas to get it cheaper and without the RX . But i'm not sure what sites are legit or not . I figure its legal to purchase bc my elderly neighbors all purchase their prescription drugs from canada but need RX's. They all recieve theirs within days. Let me know what you guys know. Thanks

You don't have an accutane deficiency

Why are you breaking out so severly

Are you on AAS or post cycle?

Describe acne history

Describe AAS history

Any BW, past or present

[pals2000]

I was fine on cycle and no breakouts at all, not one zit. Then late in the cycle, i started to really break out, So i tried to stop the cycle and figured that was worst to fluctuate the hormonal balance so i just got back on after a week and continued regular dosage but still am broke out severely arms and back. I dont even have the motivation to lift now. The doc said bactrim for a month but it didnt work, so now he says accutane but i cant afford that. What you think?

[pals2000]

I've only broke out on one other cycle and that was t400 but when i use test e with deca, i've never broke out til now. Also, i've always broke out before i've tried aas, but always actually cleared up while on.

[Dopamineloveaffair]

Post cycle acne is generally from high cortisol levels. During a cycle you're imposing lots of stress through higher intensity/volume workouts. The stress response is blunted due to high androgen levels. When one goes off cycle the stress is still high, but the dampening effect is gone so cortisol levels go through the roof.

Acne is generally caused by androgens and cortisol. Depending on your unique chemistry you may or may not get acne on cycle or afterwards. Some people just have more favourable androgen, cortisol levels. When both are high you can imagine acne gets really bad.

I'm really weary of Accutane. Been on it twice and had bad side effects. Granted not everyone that takes it has problems. I had bad depression and fatigue and know many others personally who've had similar problems (5 people of immediate friends and aquaintances). Anyone who says Accutane doesn't cause depression, I will argue to the death. Some people of course are more vulnerable than others.

Before attempting Accutane, I'd recommend high dose pantothenic acid (Up to 10 grams), and vitamin A (Up to 50,000IU). Other supplements may help as well, but these are your biggest bang for your buck. Zinc, copper, magnesium, and vitamin B2 also also good.

[pals2000]

Hey thanks man, I'm glad you shared your experience with me. Where would i get vitaman A and pantothenic acid in dosages like that? I would rather try that for sure. I do believe the accutane would cause depression and since life sucks most of the time anyway, i cant afford to be going down that road. Thanks for helping me out, fill me in on the info when you get some free time.

[Dopamineloveaffair]

Originally Posted by pals2000

Hey thanks man, I'm glad you shared your experience with me. Where would i get vitaman A and pantothenic acid in dosages like that? I would rather try that for sure. I do believe the accutane would cause depression and since life sucks most of the time anyway, i cant afford to be going down that road. Thanks for helping me out, fill me in on the info when you get some free time.

Vitamin A is quite cheap. You can get it basically anywhere. Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B5) is usually found at most higher end healthfood stores. It usually comes in 500mg capsules. I take NOW brand myself. I get around 90 capsules for $12. It can get a bit more pricey, depending on dosage and where you get it. You can probably get it in bulk on the internet for much cheaper.

You may only need a smaller dose. You'll have to experiment a little to see what's optimal.

If you are already predisposed to depression then I would definitely stay away from the stuff.

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by Dopamineloveaffair

Before attempting Accutane, I'd recommend high dose pantothenic acid (Up to 10 grams), and vitamin A (Up to 50,000IU). Other supplements may help as well, but these are your biggest bang for your buck. Zinc, copper, magnesium, and vitamin B2 also also good.

Originally Posted by pals2000

Hey thanks man, I'm glad you shared your experience with me. Where would i get vitaman A and pantothenic acid in dosages like that? I would rather try that for sure. I do believe the accutane would cause depression and since life sucks most of the time anyway, i cant afford to be going down that road. Thanks for helping me out, fill me in on the info when you get some free time.

Sound to me like a job for

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ONE and Estroessence
you may not even be interested in what the report is saying,
just look at the last page, the list of supplements and how much to take to take, to do the corrective action.

Probably much less $$$ than Acutane.
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Both are urine tests.
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[lordshockspeare]

Don't use accutane unless you absolutely have to. It has many awful side effects. Doctors are only supposed to suggest or prescribe it as a last resort if other methods fail first.
I used it, even twice because I have had persistent cystic acne since I was about 16/17. Accutane works extremely well but I couldn't endure the side effects long enough to realize its permanent acne killing ability. For accutane its a very good idea to use doctors supervision. Accutane is somewhat liver toxic and while on you do need monthly blood tests.

Unless you have been dealing with acne for a long time don't use Accutane.
First try antibiotics, both topical and/or systemic.
Topical Isotretinoin is what I am using right now, in combo with B-5 at 2grams a day.
Diet effects my skin fairly strongly, just getting my fish oil in every day really helps.
The topical anti-androgen shampoo's that are used to reduce balding actually work really well for acne too, although putting topicals on the back is basically impossible especially for a bodybuilder!
So my recommendation is use antibiotics or high dose B-5 until your hormones stabilize. Most likely its the disruption of you hormones that is causing the acne.

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[pals2000]

Ok, you guys have talked me out of accutane, so im gonna try some other stuff now. Where would i get the topical Isotretinoin? Ive ordered it online in the past but only a tube but the website dont carry it anymore. I'll get some vitaman A and some pantothenic acid and try those. Ive broke out real bad when i was in grade school but then was fine throughout high school and now my back is covered and my shoulders and arms have enough that i wont wear a sleeveless to lift. I've always broke out but maybe a few here and there on my back, but now it looks and feels terrible on my back, its uncomfortable and is kinda depressing. I feel like the only 29yr old with adult acne.

[plymouth city]

Originally Posted by Dopamineloveaffair

Post cycle acne is generally from high cortisol levels. During a cycle you're imposing lots of stress through higher intensity/volume workouts. The stress response is blunted due to high androgen levels. When one goes off cycle the stress is still high, but the dampening effect is gone so cortisol levels go through the roof.

Acne is generally caused by androgens and cortisol. Depending on your unique chemistry you may or may not get acne on cycle or afterwards. Some people just have more favourable androgen, cortisol levels. When both are high you can imagine acne gets really bad.

I'm really weary of Accutane. Been on it twice and had bad side effects. Granted not everyone that takes it has problems. I had bad depression and fatigue and know many others personally who've had similar problems (5 people of immediate friends and aquaintances). Anyone who says Accutane doesn't cause depression, I will argue to the death. Some people of course are more vulnerable than others.

Before attempting Accutane, I'd recommend high dose pantothenic acid (Up to 10 grams), and vitamin A (Up to 50,000IU). Other supplements may help as well, but these are your biggest bang for your buck. Zinc, copper, magnesium, and vitamin B2 also also good.

The androgen we want to watch out for specifically is DHEA. DHEA is the acne hormone. Its the biggie. Secondly is DHT. Test gets a bad rep for acne, but really that is majorly overblown. It is very common to see high T teenagers with clear skin - more often than not they probably have mid range DHEA and DHT.

It is no suprise that your acne cleared up on cycle - as anyone can tell you one of the first things to happen on Test is that other androgens like DHEA plummet - which is exactly why you cleared up.

One of the first things that happens when cortisol cranks up is the body cranks out DHEA to deal with it.

Describe your postcycle/drugs used. Do you believe that you are shutdown?

I get my B-5 (pantothenic acid) in bulk online. LEF also sells it in powder form very cheap. It, along with Vit A I get threw LEF multi's and Carlsons Cod Liver Oil keeps my skin clear.

[Dopamineloveaffair]

Originally Posted by plymouth city

The androgen we want to watch out for specifically is DHEA. DHEA is the acne hormone. Its the biggie. Secondly is DHT. Test gets a bad rep for acne, but really that is majorly overblown. It is very common to see high T teenagers with clear skin - more often than not they probably have mid range DHEA and DHT.

It is no suprise that your acne cleared up on cycle - as anyone can tell you one of the first things to happen on Test is that other androgens like DHEA plummet - which is exactly why you cleared up.

One of the first things that happens when cortisol cranks up is the body cranks out DHEA to deal with it.

Describe your postcycle/drugs used. Do you believe that you are shutdown?

I get my B-5 (pantothenic acid) in bulk online. LEF also sells it in powder form very cheap. It, along with Vit A I get threw LEF multi's and Carlsons Cod Liver Oil keeps my skin clear.

DHEA significantly clears my skin. My skin always gets better while on it.

Pregnenolone on the other hand gave me large cystic acne. Never had so bad acne in my life.

The glucocorticoid medication (Nasonex) for my allergies also made my acne quite a bit worse. It was like clockwork.

I'm thinking my acne is therefore cortisol induced mostly. The pregnenolone converts to cortisol... so it's a working theory.

[plymouth city]

Originally Posted by Dopamineloveaffair

DHEA significantly clears my skin. My skin always gets better while on it.

Pregnenolone on the other hand gave me large cystic acne. Never had so bad acne in my life.

The glucocorticoid medication (Nasonex) for my allergies also made my acne quite a bit worse. It was like clockwork.

I'm thinking my acne is therefore cortisol induced mostly. The pregnenolone converts to cortisol... so it's a working theory.

Interesting. What is your DHEA level pre supplementation.

If your a cortisol dominant individual, it makes sense that DHEA combating that would help your skin clear up.

[Dopamineloveaffair]

I was over the range last time I checked with supplementation. I have a doctors appointment tuesday, and I didn't take any DHEA before my last bloodwork so I'll let you know then. I have a feeling it may be high as well. I could also be a very high absorber.

I know DHEA has opposite functons of cortisol so it may be the reason. The increased estrogen conversion could also be helping my acne. Whenever my estrogen is high my skin seems to clear up. Not sure if that's the same with everybody. I've studied the relationship before and think cortisol and estrogen are proportionally related. That's a shot against my theory.