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Old 03-07-2007, 07:27 AM
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I plan on starting Arimidex. This will be self medicating because apparently high E2 is not a concern for Japanese doctors. I have 1mg tablets. I will take 1mg for my first dose, and 0.5 every 5 days (Unless it is very important that I do 0.25 every 3 days).

My question is, does adex have an conflicts with other drugs? I take diazapam for insomnia, and don't want a reaction of some kind. Just want to be sure ahead of time. Is there anything I shouldn't mix with adex? Other than not getting morning wood, is there anything I should look out for?
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You should dose it every 3 days to help keep E2 levels more consistant.

I dont think there should be any issue with diazapam, but you should ask a doctor.

I would avoid nolvadex clomid and any natural AIs except DIM although pmgamer had a bad experience mixing DIM with adex.
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You should dose it every 3 days to help keep E2 levels more consistant.

I dont think there should be any issue with diazapam, but you should ask a doctor.

I would avoid nolvadex clomid and any natural AIs except DIM although pmgamer had a bad experience mixing DIM with adex.
I've also seen some who use both adex and DIM, and others who swear by one or the other. Adex is actually cheaper. At 0.25 every 3 days, I would be spending about 150USD for the year. DIM would cost me about Almost 100 USD a month if I had to take the recommended dose for controling E2.
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I've also seen some who use both adex and DIM, and others who swear by one or the other. Adex is actually cheaper. At 0.25 every 3 days, I would be spending about 150USD for the year. DIM would cost me about Almost 100 USD a month if I had to take the recommended dose for controling E2.
Adex kills estrogen
DIM regulates estrogens, DIM is natural, use Adex if after using DIM your blood test shows high E2.
Do not over medicate with Testosterone, you will have a hard time controling estrogens.
Get your FreeT3 in 25%% of top range that will afect SHBG, T and so on.
Get your DHEAs in 500's it will help your adrenals.
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Adex kills estrogen
DIM regulates estrogens, DIM is natural, use Adex if after using DIM your blood test shows high E2.
Do not over medicate with Testosterone, you will have a hard time controling estrogens.
Get your FreeT3 in 25%% of top range that will afect SHBG, T and so on.
Get your DHEAs in 500's it will help your adrenals.
So, in your opinion I should use DIM and test a few weeks later to see if I can get my E2 down? Problem with testing SHBG or DHT is that I have yet to find a doctor that is associated with a lab that will do this. I will ask the endo next time about finding one that does.
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I've also seen some who use both adex and DIM, and others who swear by one or the other. Adex is actually cheaper. At 0.25 every 3 days, I would be spending about 150USD for the year. DIM would cost me about Almost 100 USD a month if I had to take the recommended dose for controling E2.
Do not do Arimidex and DIM at the same time.
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Do not do Arimidex and DIM at the same time.
Gotcha. Read some posts you made about it.
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the original question was about arimidex and a benzo for sleep. You may find that when you have properly balanced testosterone and estrogen that you can sleep very well and don't need the benzo any more. I would use the blood work to achieve the balance and then re-evaluate the need for the benzo.
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the original question was about arimidex and a benzo for sleep. You may find that when you have properly balanced testosterone and estrogen that you can sleep very well and don't need the benzo any more. I would use the blood work to achieve the balance and then re-evaluate the need for the benzo.
The reason for the benzos is because years ago I had severe anxiety attacks, was put on Paxil. Once off, I developed insomnia. The doc said "Here, take these." I thought I would be on them for a while and come off. The doc kept me on for over a year, so I obviously developed a physical addiction to it. I tapered down. I"m down to 0.75mg now...trying to get down to 0.5.

So, would your comment still apply to me you think? Is it possible that the last litlte bit of benzo I need to sleep might easily be taken care of when my estrogen levels and test levels balance out? If so, thank GOD! I hate benzos.

And, do you think there would be any bad reactions to benzos and adex being mixed?
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please remember I am not an MD, DO, or NMD. If it were me, I'd get the testosterone and estrogen balanced and then start to work with 5 HTP and melatonin and then work on reducing the benzo.
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please remember I am not an MD, DO, or NMD. If it were me, I'd get the testosterone and estrogen balanced and then start to work with 5 HTP and melatonin and then work on reducing the benzo.

I agree with everything HeadDoc is saying. Just be sure to taper off the valium VERY slowly. To answer your original question, there are no adverse reactions from the combination of valium and Arimidex. Once you get your hormones in check, you're off valium, you've tried melatonin and 5HTP, and you still have insomnia, you might want to try something like Lunesta. (One of the few things that works adequately for me.) There's a new one out also - Rozerem - I don't have any experience with this, and I'm not sure what the buzz is.
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I agree with everything HeadDoc is saying. Just be sure to taper off the valium VERY slowly. To answer your original question, there are no adverse reactions from the combination of valium and Arimidex. Once you get your hormones in check, you're off valium, you've tried melatonin and 5HTP, and you still have insomnia, you might want to try something like Lunesta. (One of the few things that works adequately for me.) There's a new one out also - Rozerem - I don't have any experience with this, and I'm not sure what the buzz is.
Rozerem has associated with reduced testosterone levels and increased prolactic levels.

I have tried every sleep med under the sun save Rozerem and nothing works as well as Remeron. Remeron has been shown to improve sleep architecture although more study is needed. Beats the heck out of the cumbersome CPAP machines.

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please remember I am not an MD, DO, or NMD. If it were me, I'd get the testosterone and estrogen balanced and then start to work with 5 HTP and melatonin and then work on reducing the benzo.
I understand. Thanks.
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Arimidex binds to the aromatase enzyme preventing it from acting with testosterone to produce estrogen, this is from the arimidex website.
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Rozerem has associated with reduced testosterone levels and increased prolactic levels.

I have tried every sleep med under the sun save Rozerem and nothing works as well as Remeron. Remeron has been shown to improve sleep architecture although more study is needed. Beats the heck out of the cumbersome CPAP machines.

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Interesting. Thanks for the info. re. Rozerem. I tried Remeron once. It only worked (for sleep) for me at somewhat high doses...but unfortunately, these doses increased my generalized anxiety levels. Other than that, I agree, it is a very effective sleep aid. The only other one that worked very well for me was Elavil..but the sides were just too much.
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