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Old 07-14-2006, 12:21 AM
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Hello

I have been reading through the threads on Adrenal Fatigue. I was recently diagnosed with Adrenal Fatigue by a ND, after seeing many conventional doctors. The ND also diagnosed me with malabsorption and hypoglycemia. The ND took 24 urine, blood and stool samples. I am not digesting any carbs or fats. My potassium was very low and dhea. My RBC very high and cortisol very high.

I have been battling stomach problems for 2 years and weight gain with a general feeling of always being tired and weak. I had a parasite Giardia 2 years ago that may have contributed to some of the adrenal problems. I also was diagnosed wit Sleep Apnea a year ago that may contribute to the problem as well, along with a stressful job.

I went to Gastroenterologists who just diagnosed me with IBS and a endocrinologist who diagnosed me with hypothyroidism and started prescribing me 88mcg synthroid 2 months ago. I am curious on how I should proceed with my treatment.I did a search in my state on the net and could not find any specialist in regards to adrenal fatigue. My ND has put me on a special diet to try to see if I start digesting food properly and I jut received my CPAP machine this week.

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Old 07-14-2006, 12:42 AM
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Hi Dragonfire,

I too have adrenal fatigue as evidenced by Dr. James Wilson's adrenal fatigue questionnaire. Here's a link to my recent post : Yet another loss of libido, impaired memory, and stress intolerance.

I'll share you with what others have shared with me on here : buy James Wilson's book on adrenal fatigue : http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/189...e=UTF8&s=books

I myself have ordered the book yesterday from Barnes & Noble.

You can also take the questionnaire from the book without having to buy the book, though the information in the book, I wouldn't go without especially since the book isn't costly. Here's a link to the questionnaire from this forum :
Adrenal Thread

You'll find the questionnaire by scrolling down on the above link page.

Best of luck to you. Likely others more experienced than I will chime in.
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Old 07-14-2006, 01:55 AM
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Dragonfire,

How old are you? Do you have any labs you can post? Have you tested Testosterone at all?
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I have James Wilson Book already. I bough it about a year ago after doing some internet research because I though I had adrenal fatigue then. Im 28 yeras old. All the doctors I go act like they never heard of adrenal fatigue and my endrocrinologist thinks its a joke. The ND was the one who diagnosed me with it. I have to get a hold of my lab results there at the ND's office. I did not have T levels taken. I do have a sex drive still, but not like it has been in the past.The ND reccomened that I not follow the program in Wilson's book because she said at this moment I would not digest any supplements because I am malabsorbing everything I eat. She has me on about 1,000 calorie diet ed at the moment. Im about 250-260 5 10'. I gained about 50 pounds of fat over the last year. I usually 205 at 8 bdf.

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Old 07-14-2006, 11:59 PM
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Post whatever labs you have for thyroid and Adrenals.

How did you score on the Dr. James Wilson's Adrenal Fatigue questionnaire?
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Old 07-15-2006, 07:18 AM
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I'm not at all surprised to hear that most docs as well as your endocrinologist think adrenal fatigue is a joke. That can really be frustrating, cause you walk in your doctors's office with health issues such as adrenal fatigue (for those whose problem is indeed adrenal fatigue) and cannot get the help you should get. So you walk out still with symptoms even though your doctor denies them.

For the time being I'm in much the same boat than you. I wish you the best of luck, and this forum is indeed a good place for you to get help.

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P.S. I started experiencing health issues mentioned in my thread at age 26.
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My Wifes new Dr. believes in Adrenal Fatigue he tests and treats some what different then James Wilson Book. He took some of her hair and sent it to this lab for testing.
http://www.traceelements.com/
The results showed her metabolic rate to be very low meaning Adrenal Fatigue and her blood work showed here DHEA-S to be dam low. He could not do a lot of the test he wanted to do because she was on Prednisone 1mg a day for some 30 days. So he put her on DHEA 25mgs morning and noon with a script for Fish Oil never see this before a script. She takes 3 grams a day. He kept her Armour at 105mgs down from 120 until her Adrenal's come back. After 2 months she is doing much better so he put her on a supplement called Ultra-Par form Trace Elements she was on it for 5 days and broke out in a rash around her right eye and down her neck. Yet at the same time she was feeling do good she was out in the yard working when the rash broke out. So the Dr. has her off this until this fall. Yet she is feeling much better for the first time in 12 yrs.

Here is what is in the supplement her Dr. will not use HC unless nothing works.
Ultra-ParTM
Hypo-Allergenic
Multi-Vitamin, Mineral and Glandular Formula

This product is a convenient and cost-saving combination of the products; Para-Pack and Adreno-NSF.


ONE TABLET SUPPLIES:
Vitamin A (as palmitate and 49% as beta carotene) 2050 IU
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid) 120 mg
Vitamin E (as d-alpha tocopheryl) 30 IU
Thiamine (as thiamine hydrochloride) 2.5 mg
Niacin (as niacinamide and 33% as nicotinic acid) 20 mg
Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine hydrochloride) 3 mg
Folic Acid 100 mcg
Biotin 75 mcg
Pantothenic Acid (as d-calcium pantothenate) 20 mg
Phosphorus (from calcium phosphate, amino acid complex) 10 mg
Iodine (from Sea Kelp) 100 mcg
Zinc (as oxide, from amino acid chelate) 3 mg
Selenium (as selenate, from amino acid chelate) 20 mcg
Manganese (as sulfate, from amino acid chelate) 1 mg
Potassium (as gluconate, from amino acid chelate) 30 mg
Adrenal Concentrate (bovine) 85 mg
Pituitary Concentrate (bovine) 5 mg
Parotid Concentrate (bovine) 5 mg
Citrus Bioflavonoids 50 mg
Unsaturated Fatty Acids 100 mg
Inositol 75 mg
Betaine (as betaine hydrochloride) 40 mg
Licorice Extract (root) (Deglycyrrhizinated) 35 mg
Korean Ginseng (root) 25 mg

Other ingredients:
Cellulose, Stearic Acid, Magnesium Stearate, Silica

Formula #2000
This product contains NO wheat, yeast, soy, alfalfa, milk or corn allergens and no salt, sugar, starch, wax, hydrogenated oils, artificial colors, flavors or preservatives.


Suggested Usage: Adults, as a dietary supplement, take 1 tablet 3 times daily with meals or follow the advise of your Health Care Professional.
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FYI, the "Adrenal Concentrate (bovine) 85 mg " contains cortisol.
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FYI, the "Adrenal Concentrate (bovine) 85 mg " contains cortisol.
Do you know how much and if it is natural or = top HC. Her Dr. said he trys not to use steroids to treat Adrenal Fatigue and Wilson in his book seams to favor supplements first.
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Do you know how much and if it is natural or = top HC. Her Dr. said he trys not to use steroids to treat Adrenal Fatigue and Wilson in his book seams to favor supplements first.
With the glandulars there is no way of knowing how much cortisol is in there because they don't measure it. All they do is take the Bovine Adrenal and process it, so you will be getting whatever is in the Bovine Adrenal which also contains cortisol. I have used Glandulars before and they work well, it's just that one does not know how much cortisol one is getting. A physician that uses Glandulars a lot, would know what amount of glandular would produce the desired response.
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These were my lab results that were bolded on the report as out of reference.

HDL Cholestrol Ratio 7.9.... Reference <5.0

RBC 6.09.... Reference 4.20-5.80 mill/mcl

Cortisol AM 25.2.... Reference 4.0-22.0mcg/dl

DHEA 84.... Reference 110-510 mcg/dl

Zinc 495.... Referece 670-1240mcg/L


T-Levels were in the labs normal reference , but low end.

T- Levels Total 309.... Reference 250-1000ng/dl

Sex Hormone Binding Glob 8.... Reference 7-44 nmol/L

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Your total T is really low. If that reference range were derrived from healthy young men, the low end would start at 500 +. Have a look at the sticky T levels by age. I speak from personal experience that a total T that low will make you feel like crap. A low SHBG is a sign that your body is starved for T. That high AM cortisol does not rule out adrenal fatigue either. Your response to an ACTH stim test is relevant. One hour after the ACTH injection, you should have a blood cortisol 2x preinjection. In your case that should be 50+.
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