Anyone on HCG alone?

[Megazoid]

I am waiting on my "swabes" and needles coming. My plan is to install a little chiller/frodge in my room and prepare all 15 syringes before hand and store them in the fridge. I will be using 100 iu a day, so a 1500iu HCG tube should last 2 weeks. I will store the unopened vials in the fridge also for future use. I am hoping 6 week's will be long enough, but i might need to run longer?

I think i heard that DavidZ was on HCG daily without anything else, are any other users doing HCG alone?

[JackBauer]

Be careful with those little fridges.

Speculation here - but they likely have larger temperature swings than larger machines with much more thermal "mass" of the contents inside.

If you do go this route - you may wish to find a digital temperature thermometer with a separate probe... For you to monitor the temperature of the fridge without opening it. You can then tweak take readings every 10 mintes for say 6 hours... See what the temperature is doing (compared to ambient)... and tweak the settings until you get the fridge operating just right.

Am I crazy here? (This is what I would do if I didn't have access to the large refrigerator)

[farmerjohn]

I was on HCG only but it didnt work well enough for me. I tried it for 6 monts eventually getting up to 500 iu per day. Now I am on HCG and T-cyp. I was on androgel for 4 years before trying HCG though and my testicles may have atrophy that is irreversable.....or maybe I am somewhat primary. Just keep an eye on Estradiol level along with T when you run labs.

I would run labs no more than 4 weeks after starting to see if you need to adjust your dose up or down.

[Matt Muscle]

Originally Posted by Megazoid

I am waiting on my "swabes" and needles coming. My plan is to install a little chiller/frodge in my room and prepare all 15 syringes before hand and store them in the fridge. I will be using 100 iu a day, so a 1500iu HCG tube should last 2 weeks. I will store the unopened vials in the fridge also for future use. I am hoping 6 week's will be long enough, but i might need to run longer?

I think i heard that DavidZ was on HCG daily without anything else, are any other users doing HCG alone?

Go to this site;
http://www.researchsupply.net/solvents_etc.html
and get some vials of bacteriostatic water and some sterile 10ml vials.
I make up the hCG in these vials and dilute it to what ever concentration I need.. usually about 6mls of solution to each 1500iu ampule. This will be much easier for you to use.. just draw out what you need each time. Plus the BA water helps keep the hCG sterile.
The 1500 amplues only come with 1ml of solution which is a pain in the ass if your trying to measure just 100iu amounts, plus you can far more accurately measure it and in my opinion I think it would be better absorbed if diluted further.
I used to do it the way you descibe in 250iu amounts and store it in the syringes.. but I think I feel the effects of each shot more so now that its in the BA water and diluted much further.
As it comes in the box, the 1500 iu is designed to be injected all at once with a 1ml solution, not practical for what we are doing.

I am in Australia and the hCG available here only comes in ampules which is pretty useless for males taking it on a long term basis. It sounds like its the same deal in the UK.

I have written to Organon in Australia and asked them if thier preparation of hCG would be ok with the BA water instead of the solvent supplied, and they did not see a problem with it.
Cheers.

[keaster]

I was on HCG alone for 3 around months.

[Megazoid]

What dosages were you using Keaster and how did thing's work out? Are you primary or secondary?

[keaster]

Originally Posted by Megazoid

What dosages were you using Keaster and how did thing's work out? Are you primary or secondary?

350iu eod
Did very little for me. Levels went from 314ng/dl to 501ng/dl. Still felt like crap. Levels were all over the place. I am not sure if I am primary or secondary. That doesnt really matter to me. Now I am on 5g or androgel and 250iu of hcg eod.

[jawbone]

There are many guys that use HCG as sole TRT go to Cenegenics web site. They use HCG as TRT.

[FYI777]

In Shippen's book Testosterone Syndrome" he describes a case of using HCG alone.

[Krembles]

[It's not necessary for me. I don't understand why people use ONLY HCG. It has it's
place during PCT. I know it can cause more problems that it solves. Think for your
self. I don't subscribe to things I don't fully understand.