Ascorbic Acid ; can it bring up low Cortisol ?

[chip douglas]

I'm bewildered,

Up until now, I've had no problem at all finding Pubmed studies and others on Google Scholar showing Ascorbic Acid can lower elevated Cortisol to some extent.

Still, I haven't been able to dig up any such studies showing that Ascorbic Acid can top up low Cortisol.

Dr. Mirkin whoever he is, says that more Vitamin C doesn't produce more Cortisol. Sure, vitamin C is involved in adrenal steroids synthesis, that's been known for a while, but does that mean that more vitamin C can bring up low Cortisol ? I don't think so. I've been taking high doses vitamin C for 1 months now, and I haven't found much in the way of benefits.

In the last month, I've found vitamin C to decrease my already low sex drive. After a month of high doses that's what i've found, and I've also found it causes me to be lethargic and slow witted, at least more so than when not on high doses.

Thanks

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by chip douglas

I'm bewildered,

Up until now, I've had no problem at all finding Pubmed studies and others on Google Scholar showing Ascorbic Acid can lower elevated Cortisol to some extent.

Still, I haven't been able to dig up any such studies showing that Ascorbic Acid can top up low Cortisol.

Dr. Mirkin whoever he is, says that more Vitamin C doesn't produce more Cortisol. Sure, vitamin C is involved in adrenal steroids synthesis, that's been known for a while, but does that mean that more vitamin C can bring up low Cortisol ? I don't think so. I've been taking high doses vitamin C for 1 months now, and I haven't found much in the way of benefits.

In the last month, I've found vitamin C to decrease my already low sex drive. After a month of high doses that's what i've found, and I've also found it causes me to be lethargic and slow witted, at least more so than when not on high doses.

Thanks

Chip what are you trying to do I have low cortisol do to pituitary and do that Vit. C but this kind one cap every 12 hrs.
http://www.myvitanet.com/supbiocbuf36.html
To much of anything is not good. I am treating my bad cortisol levels and thyroid and also help out at STTM Men's Thyroud Forum and Hypopituitary Issues.

[Recless]

One thing to keep in mind Bro when talking about vitamin C...Ascorbic acid is not vitamin C, ascorbic acid is ascorbic acid, a fraction of the biologically utilizable natural vitamin C complex. In nature, vitamin C is only found as a complex food with all the beneficial co-factors. A complete vitamin C needs rutin, J factor, K factor, absorbic acid and other bioflavanoids to be fully active in the body.

Vitamin E is another example. The Atlanta Journal and Constitution summarized the April, 1997 Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences with a headline proclaiming "Megadoses of E May Be Harmful, A Study Indicates." The story discussed that individuals taking vitamin E supplements might be depleting their bodies of other forms of the vitamin that perform unique and vital chemical tasks. The author mentions that vitamin E supplements were administered in the form of alpha-tocopherol. Alpha-tocopherol is one of seven tocopherols, the antioxidants of the vitamin E complex, but it is not the active ingredient. Natural vitamin E contains seven tocopherols plus polyunsaturated fatty acids, vitamins F, A and K and forms of vitamin D and manganese.

The point is that the body is designed to utilize food in its whole form. If incomplete foods such as refined alpha-tocopherol or ascorbic acid are digested, the missing factors are borrowed from tissue reserves in order to make the partial food usable. Why do you think every leading supplement manufacturer suggest you take their vitamins with a meal? Whereas, all-natural vitamins made from whole foods can be taken on an empty stomach. Also with natural vitamins you only need a fraction of the dosage as comnapred to synthetic ascorbic acid.

[hardasnails1973]

Originally Posted by Recless

One thing to keep in mind Bro when talking about vitamin C...Ascorbic acid is not vitamin C, ascorbic acid is ascorbic acid, a fraction of the biologically utilizable natural vitamin C complex. In nature, vitamin C is only found as a complex food with all the beneficial co-factors. A complete vitamin C needs rutin, J factor, K factor, absorbic acid and other bioflavanoids to be fully active in the body.

Vitamin E is another example. The Atlanta Journal and Constitution summarized the April, 1997 Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences with a headline proclaiming "Megadoses of E May Be Harmful, A Study Indicates." The story discussed that individuals taking vitamin E supplements might be depleting their bodies of other forms of the vitamin that perform unique and vital chemical tasks. The author mentions that vitamin E supplements were administered in the form of alpha-tocopherol. Alpha-tocopherol is one of seven tocopherols, the antioxidants of the vitamin E complex, but it is not the active ingredient. Natural vitamin E contains seven tocopherols plus polyunsaturated fatty acids, vitamins F, A and K and forms of vitamin D and manganese.

The point is that the body is designed to utilize food in its whole form. If incomplete foods such as refined alpha-tocopherol or ascorbic acid are digested, the missing factors are borrowed from tissue reserves in order to make the partial food usable. Why do you think every leading supplement manufacturer suggest you take their vitamins with a meal? Whereas, all-natural vitamins made from whole foods can be taken on an empty stomach. Also with natural vitamins you only need a fraction of the dosage as comnapred to synthetic ascorbic acid.

Chip easy on vtiamin C because it will raise your uric acid levels which are already at the top end of the range. Balance it out with copper 2-3 mgs would off set it.
vitamin C CAN raises uric acids and alst thing that you need right now. 500-1000 would be fine with slow release as prgmmer recommended.

[chip douglas]

Ok, will buy that one kind of Vitamin C.

By the way the one I use has lots of bioflavonoids in it.

[Recless]

The key is that it's made from whole foods...not just containing bioflavanoids. Your supplement may contain bioflavanoids but it's still synthetic ascorbic acid. The lablel should not say ascorbic acid, instead it should list nothing more than made from foods such as green peppers, acerola cherry, or rose hips. Most companies list their vitamins as "all natural" then you look on the lablel and see nothing more than ingredients chemical in nature...lol. If they sound more like food, it is usually natural. If the potency is expressed in neat round numbers like 100 mg, 200 mg or 400IU, it is synthetic.

Because the necessary co-factors are missing from a sythetic supplement, most will actually rob the body of the nutrients cofactors required for proper functioning, which deprives you of the nutrient factors you already had in storage.

As I said before Vitamin C is a complex and comes in a package containing vitamin P factors, rutin, vitamin K, vitamin J, various enzymes and coenzymes plus only a SMALL amount of ascorbic acid. Switch to a whole food brand and trust me you will see a difference.

[chip douglas]

Will do

[Andrew Androgen]

Originally Posted by Recless

The key is that it's made from whole foods...not just containing bioflavanoids. Your supplement may contain bioflavanoids but it's still synthetic ascorbic acid. The lablel should not say ascorbic acid, instead it should list nothing more than made from foods such as green peppers, acerola cherry, or rose hips. Most companies list their vitamins as "all natural" then you look on the lablel and see nothing more than ingredients chemical in nature...lol. If they sound more like food, it is usually natural. If the potency is expressed in neat round numbers like 100 mg, 200 mg or 400IU, it is synthetic.

Because the necessary co-factors are missing from a sythetic supplement, most will actually rob the body of the nutrients cofactors required for proper functioning, which deprives you of the nutrient factors you already had in storage.

As I said before Vitamin C is a complex and comes in a package containing vitamin P factors, rutin, vitamin K, vitamin J, various enzymes and coenzymes plus only a SMALL amount of ascorbic acid. Switch to a whole food brand and trust me you will see a difference.

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Can you suggest a brand?
Thanx.