Men's Health Forum: This is a discussion on Dano79 HCG update & Qestions within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; Ok, so I've reached the six week mark, and had my first labs done
Starting T (after stopping test cyp ...
Ok, so I've reached the six week mark, and had my first labs done
Starting T (after stopping test cyp for two weeks) 115
Current T (on 250 iu of HCG every other day) 350
Needless to say, I really don't feel well at 350, so I'm asking these questions:
1. Is this an appropriate response to HCG, for this situattion?
2. Should my doeage be increased to 500 iu of HCG every other day?
3. Does it look like HCG is not going to help me?
My doctor told me that he was satisfied with the results and thinks they will continue to improve, although slowly. Is he right? Are these really good results? I interpet feeling good=good tests
Dano... Drop the HCG and restart your HPTA via SERMs.... It's obvious from your results that your testes are working.. HCG is not reliable because you can't inject it to simulate the natural pluses of your LH hormone. That's why you can't go by the results above... HCG is famous for the large swings of hills and valleys. You caught it at 350 now... a few hours later depending when you injected, you may catch it at 580.... I think the results above are very encouraging in the sense that they confirm that your testes are not atrophied and they're kicking on their own. Now, it's time to kick start your hpta with the SERMs using Clomid and Nolvadex... and drop the HCG for the rest of your life...
Ok, so I've reached the six week mark, and had my first labs done
Starting T (after stopping test cyp for two weeks) 115
Current T (on 250 iu of HCG every other day) 350
Needless to say, I really don't feel well at 350, so I'm asking these questions:
1. Is this an appropriate response to HCG, for this situattion?
2. Should my doeage be increased to 500 iu of HCG every other day?
3. Does it look like HCG is not going to help me?
My doctor told me that he was satisfied with the results and thinks they will continue to improve, although slowly. Is he right? Are these really good results? I interpet feeling good=good tests
You have had over 15 shots and this is all 350 it's not working and if it is going to be slow then do shots with it. If I were you I would do 50mgs of T shots 3 times a week and the HCG the 2 days in between. You can use a small needle for this I use a 27g 1ml x 1/2" lg. needle. There is a new drug comming out It works like Clomid but better. I am posting a new thread on it so read it.
Why should you suffer with low levels waiting for your testis to come back when you can do this with T shots. It worked for me I feel my testis came back fast I did 500 IU's 3 x's a week with 150 mgs. of Depo T shots. After my 15th shot of HCG my Total T went from 600 to 1200 now my labs range is different then most so 1200 for my lab is like 800 for quest. Then the size come back over the following yr. Just remember to keep an eye on your E2. it it's high it will kill your penis give you ED and loss of reaching an orgasm.
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Just talked to my doctor today. He wants me to stay at my current doage for another six weeks, and see if there is more improvement. Am i right to assume, that if HCG works for me, I will continue to see gradual increases in test production?
He also wants to run another thyroid and adrenal panel.
Just talked to my doctor today. He wants me to stay at my current doage for another six weeks, and see if there is more improvement. Am i right to assume, that if HCG works for me, I will continue to see gradual increases in test production?
He also wants to run another thyroid and adrenal panel.
Yes your not going to see results over night some of us it takes time. For me my testis jumped on the HCG and they were dam small after being on TRT for over 23 yrs. Doing HCG for over a yr now my testis are normal size now.
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Phil