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Old 03-17-2006, 11:42 AM
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50 milligrams of clomid, hour of sleep. Bedtime.
So I take it that means 50 mg at bedtime? That's 50 mg per day. That supports my experience that 100 mg per day is the most I've ever seen a doctor prescribe.

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HS was a common abbreviation at the hospitals I worked at. Is it no longer used?
Don't know. Never worked in a hospital.

I don't think it's a good idea to use dosage frequency abbreviations on a message board like this. I doubt any more than 20% of the readers will know what you're talking about.
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So I take it that means 50 mg at bedtime? That's 50 mg per day. That supports my experience that 100 mg per day is the most I've ever seen a doctor prescribe.

Don't know. Never worked in a hospital.

I don't think it's a good idea to use dosage frequency abbreviations on a message board like this. I doubt any more than 20% of the readers will know what you're talking about.

HS: "hora sopor"
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did you get the help that you needed from us? How are you doing?
The input from here has helped tremendously, review of the thread will show the extent of the problems i have encountered, i last updated after my most recent doctor visit. We have stabilized everything for the moment and will be retesting all labs in about 5 more weeks. At that point i may decide to stop completely as well and try to truly recover, at this point in my life i would love to be able to wake up and not have to depend on medication to get through the day. The only thing that i am suffering from right now is a lingering "background anxiety" it is not severe but is present most days. When i have a day where it seems to escalate i will take .25mg of klonipin and that always works. Special thanks to those of you who have spoken with me via PM, the support of others in the same situation is of great importance. I am not anti-steroid by the way but for me and due to my extreme abuse, i am suffering from a withdrawal that is similar to any other substance abuse problem. To those who are on teh same path i would urge you to think twice about what you are doing.
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great to hear that. You might want to looking into inositol as a supplement to handle anxiety. Keep us updated and please join in to those who are also geting off AAS--and even those who want off HRT. The later group has not received much attention. It may be a futile enterprise but worth pursuing for some.
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Many of us in that same predicament bro, you can find my story in this forum titled "steroid abuser trying to stop" may be down a couple of pages.

I read your story. I was pickup my hormonal analysis today, but only for LH and total testosteron.
I am still on SERM-s, clomid 50mg/nolvadex 20mg, and my results in the 2h PM, are:

Total testosterone 850ng/dl ( 300-1000)
LH 4,1 mIU/ml (1,5- 7)

So far, so good...dont now what will gona happened after cesation of this combo clomid/nolvadex ? Possibly i could suffered a relapse after discontinuation SERM-s, dont now. Only time will show....
Still no change in the mood, and sex drive.
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heavyuser: My usage of SERMs (nolvadex) is pretty limited, but what I've observed is that while on them, your LH should go over the top of normal before you begin tapering down. Your LH is an indicator of how strongly you are responding to the SERM. When I got off of TRT last year, I used Nolva 40mg/day for 6 weeks. My LH was off the chart. After that, I did 3 weeks at 20mg, and then 1 week at 10mg.

I'm not sure how often you're getting your blood drawn, but I used LH as an indicator of when to start tapering down. It took me 6 weeks at 40mg to get high LH. I had planned on it only taking 4, so the lab work helped me to decide to to give the full dosage a little bit more time.

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heavyuser: My usage of SERMs (nolvadex) is pretty limited, but what I've observed is that while on them, your LH should go over the top of normal before you begin tapering down. Your LH is an indicator of how strongly you are responding to the SERM. When I got off of TRT last year, I used Nolva 40mg/day for 6 weeks. My LH was off the chart. After that, I did 3 weeks at 20mg, and then 1 week at 10mg.

I'm not sure how often you're getting your blood drawn, but I used LH as an indicator of when to start tapering down. It took me 6 weeks at 40mg to get high LH. I had planned on it only taking 4, so the lab work helped me to decide to to give the full dosage a little bit more time.

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I getting my blood drawn every wednesday. 3 months ago, when i start my PCT with SERM-s, my LH was so low, undetectable 0,1. Every week my LH jumping for about half number. Right now is about 4. You think that i should stay on the SERM-s for a couple of weeks more, and then tapering down?
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good to hear that Serms were successful for you guys and that patience is necessary in waiting for the hpta to change

I'm in day 4 of my restart protocal, will taper down to 200mg clomid/20 nolv for three days, then taper down again......

libido is nonexistant, I feel as though I am on alot of clomid and my testosterone is at zero....... can't wait for things to start producing even a little bit of test... like I said, thanks for the reminder for patience
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