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Old 03-20-2006, 04:13 PM
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I thought I should clarify that the good results I saw with cialis today were pretty much a mechanical thing, but just the fact that the mechanics were so far improved from when I was on trt is so encouraging.

I still think I have a ways to go in recovery though, as actual urgency of libido has still not occurred (although it was bad on trt always too), I'm hoping going this more natural approach may slowly allow whatever goes on in the brain chemically to adjust and return that natural libido cycle that I remember years ago.

Also, my feeling 'fantastic' may have more to do with the serms than natural test? Calm feeling of well being is the way I describe it at the moment.
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I thought I should clarify that the good results I saw with cialis today were pretty much a mechanical thing, but just the fact that the mechanics were so far improved from when I was on trt is so encouraging.

I still think I have a ways to go in recovery though, as actual urgency of libido has still not occurred (although it was bad on trt always too), I'm hoping going this more natural approach may slowly allow whatever goes on in the brain chemically to adjust and return that natural libido cycle that I remember years ago.

Also, my feeling 'fantastic' may have more to do with the serms than natural test? Calm feeling of well being is the way I describe it at the moment.
Glad to hear that bro. Keep us updated...
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end of day 5, just got back from workout that was not bad at all, but definitely taking it light, I could feel the burn a lot quicker on some exercises, so I am a little weaker right now, but not as bad as I expected

libido throughout the day was nil (wondering if this morning was a bit of a morning wood syndrome as I was drowsy all morning)

definite noticeable testicle size increase even compared to when I was on hcg..... I wonder if FSH is ahead of LH or maybe testicle size comes before testosterone output? just thinking out loud

mood is very very good, felt really good after the workout
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chap i wish you the best of luck on your quest,keep us posted on your results.
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sounds good chap, I would love to think I could get off of all these drugs for good. Keep the journal going. One problem I have with a restart is i have never been able to use clomid, it screws up my emotions bad. For now i am going to stay with HRT until i can stabilize my depression, then maybe i will attempt to get off that as well.
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emotions with clomid: well I was going through some tough times when I started this and was somewhat depressed and the clomid did not help with that for sure, but suprisingly it got better day by day and the last few days I have felt really really calm, relaxed, good..... for me it was worth sticking through the initial malaise... you know just the thought of maybe not having to go on testosterone hrt ever again is a really uplifting accomplishment on my life outlook... I know what you mean about wanting to get off, being a slave to injections just to feel 1/2 normal is a major burden. When I hear young steroid users saying stuff like "no big deal, if I do screw up my hpta I can always go on hrt anyway when I get older"... if they only knew
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this morning it is now day 6, 200mg clomid 40mg nolva, last day of this 'megadose' and tapering down tomorrow (for clarification, when I list the dosages I actually am splitting that up into 1/2 morning 1/2 night)

Great morning wood again this morning which is encouraging. It may be placebo/wishful thinking but I almost thought the very faint beginnings of a libido actually starting. I had a very sexual dream while I was rem sleeping this morning in which was a very successful love making session, don't know if that has any significance, but it felt good that my subconcious mind is actually 'programming' me to think success.

Had a good sleep and feel good starting the day.
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YEAH, growing up sucks, you start realizing that maybe you weren't quite as sharp as you thought after all! That was me 5 years ago saying that very statement.


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day 7, today 100mg clomid 20mg nolvadex

good morning wood again, daytime libido still zero

felt a little sick like a cold coming on, wish my test would get flowing to help my immune system out
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