DHT Cream

[DavidZ]

Originally Posted by Matt Muscle

David, what did the DHT cream do to you when you took it the first time and why didnt you like it?

Just didn't feel right. Didn't feel bad, just didn't like the feeling. The feeling is hard to describe, kind of bloaty.

I've been on it again now for a week at less than half the dosage I was taking before. My initial reaction is very positive.

Originally Posted by Matt Muscle

Why have you decided to take it again... is your libido suffering from low DHT levels?

Not libido, per se, but my energy level and erectile strength were waning. Also, my DHT levels have been low-normal for the last 2 years.

When I took it 4 years ago my DHT level shot up from about 35 to about 85 (normal range of 25 to 75). My goal now is to keep it about 50 to 60.

Originally Posted by Matt Muscle

Has anyone here tried very small amounts of test cream on the testes as per Dr Shippen... to increase DHT levels specifically in this area?

Not me. I've never taken any exogenous T.

[Matt Muscle]

Thanks David. I will be interested to hear if it continues to help you and any changes you may notice.
cheers.

[SWALE]

IMPO, DHT should never be used as sole TRT.

It induces deposition of intra-abdominal fat, which predisposes one to cardiovascular disease.

DHT cream INDUCES hypogonadism ("low testosterone") because it powerfully inhibits the HPTA. Lowering testosterone is the wrong direction.

There are some particular uses for DHT cream in this medicine, but not in the way you are using it. It just makes no sense whatsoever.

[DavidZ]

Originally Posted by SWALE

IMPO, DHT should never be used as sole TRT.

I'm not using DHT as sole TRT.

I'm using it in addition to HCG. HCG alone puts my T in the upper normal range.

Originally Posted by SWALE

DHT cream INDUCES hypogonadism ("low testosterone") because it powerfully inhibits the HPTA. Lowering testosterone is the wrong direction.

My HPTA is already shut down by HCG. Therefore, the addition of DHT is not reducing T.

Originally Posted by SWALE

There are some particular uses for DHT cream in this medicine, but not in the way you are using it. It just makes no sense whatsoever.

Such as...?

[SWALE]

Oh, okay, That's different.

I think possibly HCG and DHT could be an alright TRT regimen. I wouldn't mess around with it, but it has possibilities.

I don't think DHT transdermal is approved in the US, is it?

[DavidZ]

Originally Posted by SWALE

Oh, okay, That's different.

I think possibly HCG and DHT could be an alright TRT regimen. I wouldn't mess around with it, but it has possibilities.

Why not? You said that DHT has a place in HRT. What do you see as the proper role for DHT in HRT?

My DHT runs low-normal, so I'm just trying to get it into mid-range or upper half of the range.

Originally Posted by SWALE

I don't think DHT transdermal is approved in the US, is it?

I dunno. I understand it's widely used in Europe.

I'm using compounded DHT 1% cream. My current daily dose is very small (0.2 ml which is 1.6 mg of DHT).

[zaarel2]

Originally Posted by SWALE

IMPO, DHT should never be used as sole TRT.

It induces deposition of intra-abdominal fat, which predisposes one to cardiovascular disease.

DHT cream INDUCES hypogonadism ("low testosterone") because it powerfully inhibits the HPTA. Lowering testosterone is the wrong direction.

There are some particular uses for DHT cream in this medicine, but not in the way you are using it. It just makes no sense whatsoever.

Is intra-abdominal fat the fat behind the abdominal muscle wall? If this is increased by DHT cream is it also increased by high levels of DHT?

[SWALE]

Intra-abdominal fat is that in and around the organs. It leads to cardiovascular disease.

I just do not see the purpose in DHT in TRT. Simple as that. There are a couple of possible real uses for it, but I do not feel like discussing them at this time.

[coz]

Originally Posted by SWALE

Intra-abdominal fat is that in and around the organs. It leads to cardiovascular disease.

I just do not see the purpose in DHT in TRT. Simple as that. There are a couple of possible real uses for it, but I do not feel like discussing them at this time.

My latest blood test show quite a low DHT level compared to total/bio-avail T ;

Total Test - 23.9 (11.1 - 32.9)nmol/L
Bio-Avail Test - 478 (150 - 753)ng/dL
SHBG - 17.8 (11 - 71) nmol/L
DHT - 449 (444 - 1727)pg/ml

Libido and erections are very low .... would this be a situation where DHT cream could help/be used ?

[SWALE]

Possibly. But use of a transdermal testosterone would be first choice.

Adding in DHT to a TRT regimen can be tricky.