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Old 09-13-2005, 05:38 PM
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Which testosterone gel causes higher spikes in DHT levels?
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They are nearly the same, but individual results may vary.
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I'm using the gels, what can I do to lower DHT?
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does any body feel testim loses it affects after 3 months
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I'm using the gels, what can I do to lower DHT?
I would say that Testim does a slight bit more as clinical studies (and the observations of many users) have shown that Testim seems to be "stronger"... Yes, both are 1% solution, but Testim seems to deliver more into the bloodstream and raise Total T and Free T somewhat higher than AG - so I would assume DHT leevls would also be slightly higher with Testim... but then individual results do vary...

How high are your levels? And in what reference range (for your Lab)?

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I'm using the gels, what can I do to lower DHT?
Why do you want to lower DHT? Unless it is more than double the top of the range, I wouldn't worry about it.

If it is a problem, then possible solutions include:

- Less gel, but add in hCG
- Test Cyp injections rather than the gel.
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all they do for me is raise dht , dht was 30 when i started and test was 205 3 months later on 2 tubes per day my dht is 120 and my test is 208 , so it dosent do shit for my test but im horny all day long , with best erections ever , but i cant gain in the gym , so im thinking to do 1/2 shot of cyp with 1 tube per day , or should i just switch to a shot ?
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all they do for me is raise dht , dht was 30 when i started and test was 205 3 months later on 2 tubes per day my dht is 120 and my test is 208 , so it dosent do shit for my test but im horny all day long , with best erections ever , but i cant gain in the gym , so im thinking to do 1/2 shot of cyp with 1 tube per day , or should i just switch to a shot ?
My Dr. mixed it because the gels did nothing for my joints and muscles so he added shots to my Testim 10 grams and it drove my Estradiol levels way up. I had a hell of a time getting he to just do shots. Now I am doing 150 mgs. of Depo T every week and added HCG. I was so sore in my joints that I could hardly walk. Now on the shots and HCG I walk one hour 4 days a week and work out in the gym on Machines 2 hrs. 3 days a week. I am 61 and feel the best on this that I every felt in the 21 yrs. on TRT.
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My Dr. mixed it because the gels did nothing for my joints and muscles so he added shots to my Testim 10 grams and it drove my Estradiol levels way up. I had a hell of a time getting he to just do shots. Now I am doing 150 mgs. of Depo T every week and added HCG. I was so sore in my joints that I could hardly walk. Now on the shots and HCG I walk one hour 4 days a week and work out in the gym on Machines 2 hrs. 3 days a week. I am 61 and feel the best on this that I every felt in the 21 yrs. on TRT.
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Phil,

Since the question here is about DHT, could you advise what your DHT levels are on those doses?

Also, since these doses seem to be quite high (comparing them to SWALE's normal recommendation... yeah, yeah, I know that we're all different, etc., but there needs to be some point of comparison), what have your E2 levels and Total Es been on those doses?

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