ED - Keeping it up?

[Megazoid]

I am finding myself still getting morning erections on occaisions but never the really strong ones, or ones that are hard to get rid of anymore.

If i wake up in the morning i can usually get it up without too much problem, though stimulation is required, thoughts (porno movies, sexual fantasys, etc) just don't do anything. I can still flex my PC muscles somewhat but the whole groin area is allot weaker and my penis is more free at the base.

Here is the problem, without constant stimulation i can't remain hard. I find it's easiser to keep hard when i am warmer, usually erections are more powerful too.

Can hormones effect your ability to keep an erection the same as they can to get it?

[cjones]

Try LA before bed, this keeps everything wholesome when you wake up and healthy although I also have no libido. With you still getting some form of morning erections this will probably help you even more but this is thyroid hormone essentially that is not caring about reproductive health

[dcguy4u]

Originally Posted by cjones

Try LA before bed, this keeps everything wholesome when you wake up and healthy although I also have no libido. With you still getting some form of morning erections this will probably help you even more but this is thyroid hormone essentially that is not caring about reproductive health

what is LA ? I have had ED issues for three years and up until Feb of this year , I found it easier to get it up in the morning . In Feb I unrecognized my problem (i was in denial before that) , I started seeking out treatments and the stress has killed whatever remaining ED capability I had. I am also having penile insensitivity now.

[leed]

Originally Posted by dcguy4u

what is LA ? I have had ED issues for three years and up until Feb of this year , I found it easier to get it up in the morning . In Feb I unrecognized my problem (i was in denial before that) , I started seeking out treatments and the stress has killed whatever remaining ED capability I had. I am also having penile insensitivity now.

Read as much as you can, listen to Megazoid, Cjones & PmGamer18 - the three wise men

I also have been in denial 5 years, have ordered Armour which is in the post - ready to be rid of this disease.

LA is "Acetyl-L-Carnitine"

Definitely something to Acetyl L-Carnitine

A Cure for Erectile Dysfunction: ALC/ALA

Personally i followed this protocol for 3 months, got nothing from it - now have a load of the stuff in my cupboard.

Figured that its my thyroid, as cjones mentioned above "this is thyroid hormone essentially that is not caring about reproductive health"

[PainIsGrowth]

Has anyone tried Propionyl-L-Carnitine? Its more expensive than ALC, but Im wondering if it supposed to work as well for E.D.? I have tried it for 2 months, and didn't really get anything from it, but I curious if anyone else had good results.

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by leed

Read as much as you can, listen to Megazoid, Cjones & PmGamer18 - the three wise men

I also have been in denial 5 years, have ordered Armour which is in the post - ready to be rid of this disease.

LA is "Acetyl-L-Carnitine"

Definitely something to Acetyl L-Carnitine

A Cure for Erectile Dysfunction: ALC/ALA

Personally i followed this protocol for 3 months, got nothing from it - now have a load of the stuff in my cupboard.

Figured that its my thyroid, as cjones mentioned above "this is thyroid hormone essentially that is not caring about reproductive health"

About Armour Thyroid.
I use 3 grains now, at one point I was using 4 graions but had to lower it when blood test show FreeT3 over the top range. No adverse effect at that time.

Ok, I am not knocking out Armour.

But remember, Armour is realy the best solution for the %% of people who are not able to convert T3-->T4.
T3 have a half life in hours
T4 have a half life in days
using Armour requires 2-4 doses daily, I still feel and have some daily body temperature variations, overall average body temp is close to desirable level now, it was low on before Armour.

I have never checked if I am able to convert T4-->T3
So, after my last blood test instead of raising my Armour to 3.5grains
I keep it at 3grains and added Synthroid (T4) 50mcg, (actualy I got generic Levothyroxin).
If it works I expect less freequent dosing and better stability.

[cjones]

Its interesting mentioning the denial of all this. I had exactly the same thing with the whole "mystery" side to hypothyroidism being the great pretender to other conditions. Unfortunately your penis is the first thing to go being hypo and combine this with adrenal weakness its a sad tale

I take L-Arginine powder from Now Foods 1/2 teaspoon every night before bed to keep some kind of function happening through the night. This is essential for reproductive health with 1/2 teaspoon maca in the morning and dinner from whole world botanicals

[cjones]

Originally Posted by PainIsGrowth

Has anyone tried Propionyl-L-Carnitine? Its more expensive than ALC, but Im wondering if it supposed to work as well for E.D.? I have tried it for 2 months, and didn't really get anything from it, but I curious if anyone else had good results.

I wouldn't recommend it for getting yourself off but if you need to have sex apply some china brush to the head of your penis in the privacy of your bathroom or something beforehand and you will have more than adequate sex no matter how dysfunctional you feel I promise you

I find your situation similar to me, I also have high total T

[pmgamer18]

In the 25 yrs I have been on TRT I was dam low on my first blood test 120 total T I was 40 yrs. old and felt dam bad. I pushed my shelf to go to work and act normal around my family until I could not get out of bed. First 5 yrs of this I was told I am Depressed and was treated for this until we found out I am not depressed but have low testosterone so I was 45 when I went on TRT. Even with levels this low and dam bad fatigue I never had a problem with sex could do it everyday.

It was when I went on TRT that I started getting probelms loss of libidol then ED then no orgasms.

All of this was due to low levels of testosterone and higher levels if Estradiol long before I found out about my estradiol high levels. I was using a penis pump and cock ring to have sex still no orgasm. This went on from about age 50 to age 58. I was all ready doing supplements for libido like Maca and L-Arginine and L-Histidine.

Here is what I find that works one needs there Testosterone up into the upper 1/3 of there labs range for a young man for both Total and Free T. And the big bad guy here is Estradiol we all need this down between 10 to 30 best at 20 if your SHBG is on the high side your Estradiol can be up as high as 40.

Getting Estardiol down my ED was gone but no libido so to have sex I needed to work on it to get it up. As soon as we stop it would go down fast to dam fast. I started having sex again and could reach an orgasm.

Here is one problem that happens once you have some ED you mind is allways on it and when you go to have sex it's in the back of your mind " will it stay up" and this kills it. So my Dr. gave me Cialis 20 mgs and told me to take it every 3 days not only to help with sex but for night time and morning wood, Believe it or not when you stop getting this your penis gets weak and this was why it went down so fast if we stop working on it. On the Cialis I could have sex and it would stay up my morning wood come back and the more I had it the better my penis got. Now today I can have sex with out Cialis and it stays up a good 3 mins if we are not touching it. I am 63 now.

Now for Libido Maca helps and I still take L-A stopped the L-H yrs. ago. I know this because I stopped using it for a time and could tell the difference. When I started treating my thyroid and cortisol levels my libido came back it's not anything to brag about but it's there now and I have only been on treating my thyroid and low cortisol levels this yr. So as time gones on it's getting better.

The best gauge you have is your morning and night time wood. Hardasnails can tell you about some killer wood he has had trying to balance this Estradiol. When your wood stops something is off.

[cjones]

The worst thing Phil is walking around with the inhibited or total lack of sensation of actually having a penis. That is what hurts the most not least mentally

The way you were with low T is how I feel now although I have a better sense of wellbeing with iscocort and some supps

I hope Armour brings this back