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Old 08-30-2005, 02:05 AM
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Howdy! As some of you know, I had gyno lumps that were sore. Started taking Nolvadex... and after 25 days it's completely gone in my right nipple and considerably lower in my left still with a bit of soreness.

My questions are as follows;

1) Because I got sore nipples from just HRT protocol levels of testosterone, does that mean that I will always get the gyno if I'm not taking an anti-estrogen? Or will my body acclimate to the 'normal' levels of testosterone?

2) I got some horrible acne with the Nolva... found out that the nolva was causing it at least... and I'm anxious to come off of it. Anyone else had bad experience with Nolva causing acne?
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Kroms,

I've been on Nolvadex at 40mg/day for about 10 days now. I haven't seen any additional acne, but my lab work is still being worked out. The Clomid did the same thing to you, no?

Swale's recipe states that if you suffer from chronic E2 elevation, you'll need to be on an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex.

Have you had any lab work done lately?

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Kroms,

I've been on Nolvadex at 40mg/day for about 10 days now. I haven't seen any additional acne, but my lab work is still being worked out. The Clomid did the same thing to you, no?

Swale's recipe states that if you suffer from chronic E2 elevation, you'll need to be on an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex.

Have you had any lab work done lately?

Sonny
Yes, and my E2 was low - middle range in both. What you vets would consider 'ideal'.

I'm stumped.
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Yes, and my E2 was low - middle range in both. What you vets would consider 'ideal'.

I'm stumped.
Did you get total estrogens?

I agree, gyno with normal estradiol and elevated DHT+Testosterone is a bit odd.
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I got totals, but don't remember them. My doc does my lab follow-ups via phone to save me a little money (it's considered a lower level consultation for insurance reasons).

My gyno is almost gone so I'll be discontinuing the Nolva here within the next week or two.

I am considering running Letrozole (Letro). I hear it's prefered over Arimidex. Comments?

As ALWAYS, your input is greatly appreciated and of the utmost value to me, bros!
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Kroms:

I don't have experience with either one, but I think Armidex's track history makes it hard to dismiss it as a good choice. Maybe you can get on it and then pursue Letro if you're not happy?

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For me taking Arimidex to keep my E2 in a good range is to dam strong I keep going to low. This is just as bad as being to high. So the Indolplex/DIM with TMG is doing the job. I am only taking 1/4 of a pill of Indolplex/DIM now with TMG. So now the cost is way down.
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