Men's Health Forum: This is a discussion on HCG vs. TRT within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; Originally Posted by The_Skeptic
And you've never had any issues with TSA? Do they even see it or ask you ...
And you've never had any issues with TSA? Do they even see it or ask you about it?
I presume they see it, but they've never questioned it.
But like I said, they do stop me every time to see if my little scissors have rounded tips. If they were pointed, they would have confiscated them a long time ago.
Now I just take the scissors out and put them in the little rubber tubs. Saves us all the time and hassle.
But, no, they've never even asked to open my carry-on to look at the syringes.
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Are they on your carry-on?
Always. I would never put my meds in checked baggage. That would be thoroughly dumb.
But, of course, I always travel with a copy of all my presecriptions (as per airline rules) just in case someone might question me. But it's never happened.
Great info there. I am currently on a trip in Mexico. I left my hCG at home and just brought my test cyp vial and enough syringes to last the trip. Next time I will follow this advice on traveling with meds.
While the beta subunit of HCG shares moiety (electrostatics and sterics--meaning it looks much the same to the receptor) with that of TRH, HCG does not stimulate the thyroid. That is why "fat farms" quit using it for such decades ago.
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Great responses. A lot of food for thought. And I still have much to learn.
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And there are different types of testicular cancer, only one of which produces hCG.
You are correct cpeil2, there are two types of TC, Seminoma and Nonseminoma and only Nonseminoma has blood markers, Alpha-fetoprotein and hCG (beta subunit).
As my hCG got over 50,000 for a good while, I wonder it that is why my testes no longer produce Testosterone.
While I'm dribbling on about Testicular Cancer, I hope you guys check the "Boys" at least once a month and get to know them real well.
PLEASE regularly self-examine your testicles. Testicular cancer is the number one cancer in men your age. It is very bad when it goes undetected, but quite curable when caught early. On the first of the month, every month, in the shower, is a good time. DO NOT FORGET TO DO THIS! Here is a website telling how:
I bought a refridgerator thermometer for about $6 at Bed, Bath & Beyond. I put it in my freezer pack when I travel and in the refridgerator at my destination.
I use it to monitor the temperature of (a) my freezer pack when I arrive to make sure the freezer pack made it all the way through my journey and (b) the refrigerator at my destination. Often I find that the refrigerator at my destination is not set properly and I'm able to adjust it, accordingly. My recollection is that the old insert used to say that after reconstitution, the vial should be kept between 34 and 44 degrees. I can't find this info on the new insert. Refrigerators should generally be set for 38 to 40 degrees.
I also use the thermometer at home when I'm not travelling to set my own refridgerator.
I bought a refridgerator thermometer for about $6 at Bed, Bath & Beyond. I put it in my freezer pack when I travel and in the refridgerator at my destination.
That's the first I've heard of HCG affecting thyroid hormone/activity.
I'd be interested in some more information on this topic.
It's always amazed me how the vast majority of doctors ignor these other bodily actvities when they dismiss HCG as a TRT option.
Please recheck your research on this. I researched this issue a while back concluded that this is a misconception. Here's why.
When a doctor suspects testicular cancer (TC) he does a blood test for HCG. Elevated HCG is an indication that TC is present. However, there is no research that indicates HCG causes TC. But it is understandable that some people might mistakenly think that it does because of the first sentence in this paragraph.
Unlikely as long as your careful and knowledgable.
Unlikely with subq injections.
With HCG at $45 a vial for 2 months, can you get much cheaper than that?
With my insurance, I pay $20 for 3 vials which lasts me six months. At $3.33 a month, I doubt anyone is paying less than that for standard TRT.
Been on at least 30 flights with needles in my carry-on. They've never once stopped to take a look at them.
Although they stop me every time to look at my small round-tipped scissors (although I understand that's about to end ).
I both inject (HCG) and apply cream (DHT) daily. I actually find the cream about as inconvenient as injecting. The inconvenience with cream is that it limits your activity for about 2 hours or more after you apply it.
This stuff is over my head, so I won't comment on it.
Hi David,
Perhaps I'm a little of the subject, but I am wondering if I should change my HCG to daily dosing instead of 3x per week. I'm reading that many favor this method, especially when its the sole component for TRT. Should I discuss this with Doc first? Currently, I'm injecting (20) units on the 1/2 CC insulin syringe. It would be easy to inject 8-9 units per day. Have you noticed any difference in daily dosing? Did Doc advise you to go this route or did you take it upon yourself? Any feedback will be much appreciated.
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