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Hi everyonne. Just got results from lab tests and had high total Es and normal E2. I don't have the specific numbers yet though. My adrenals and thyroid are normal. Actually, everything was pretty good inclding HGH, DHT and DHEA. My T (free, unbound and total) was a little low (around 400 ng/dl), but that's because I only take 40 mg of T cypionate every three days and 100 IU of HCG every day. Dr. John bumbed me up to 60 mg every three days, HCG as before, and start .25 mg of Arimadex every other day; I start this program tomorrow. He said my total Es were very high. I've been experiencing anxiety, low libido, low strength, lack of concentration. Can my situation cause these kinds of issues? I though it was just high E2 that caused these problems. Phil, I seem to remember you may have had this issue as well. I appreciate any feedback.
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Hi everyonne. Just got results from lab tests and had high total Es and normal E2. I don't have the specific numbers yet though. My adrenals and thyroid are normal. Actually, everything was pretty good inclding HGH, DHT and DHEA. My T (free, unbound and total) was a little low (around 400 ng/dl), but that's because I only take 40 mg of T cypionate every three days and 100 IU of HCG every day. Dr. John bumbed me up to 60 mg every three days, HCG as before, and start .25 mg of Arimadex every other day; I start this program tomorrow. He said my total Es were very high. I've been experiencing anxiety, low libido, low strength, lack of concentration. Can my situation cause these kinds of issues? I though it was just high E2 that caused these problems. Phil, I seem to remember you may have had this issue as well. I appreciate any feedback.
Yes Total E's do this just as bad as E2 I never felt good gettting my E2 down wile my Total E's were still high. Your doing my treatment I do 64 mgs every 3 days of Depo T and was doing 100 IU's of HCG everyday. I switched to doing my HCG 250 IU's the days between my T shots. I now take my Arimidex .5 mgs on the day of my shot so I am doing .5 mgs. every 3 days. This is keeping my E2 down around 15 -20 and my Total E just above the top of the range 134 pg/mL range 29 - 127 a lot better then 317. I have found that I feel better with a lower E2 and a total E near the top of the range.

I see my Dr. next Wed. I need him to address my low Cortisol and IGF-1 levels if he will not I am going to see Dr. John. I got a new Thermometer yesterday the one 1cc said to get and my temp in the morning is 96.4 and the same on the Digital then at noon it is 97.1 so something is wrong.
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Yes Total E's do this just as bad as E2 I never felt good gettting my E2 down wile my Total E's were still high. Your doing my treatment I do 64 mgs every 3 days of Depo T and was doing 100 IU's of HCG everyday. I switched to doing my HCG 250 IU's the days between my T shots. I now take my Arimidex .5 mgs on the day of my shot so I am doing .5 mgs. every 3 days. This is keeping my E2 down around 15 -20 and my Total E just above the top of the range 134 pg/mL range 29 - 127 a lot better then 317. I have found that I feel better with a lower E2 and a total E near the top of the range.

I see my Dr. next Wed. I need him to address my low Cortisol and IGF-1 levels if he will not I am going to see Dr. John. I got a new Thermometer yesterday the one 1cc said to get and my temp in the morning is 96.4 and the same on the Digital then at noon it is 97.1 so something is wrong.
Do you use the thermometer to determine whether your E or your cortisol is fluctuating?
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Do you use the thermometer to determine whether your E or your cortisol is fluctuating?
I understand that checking you Temp. tells you how you Thyroid and Cortisol are doing. Not E's but with E's I can tell if I go to low on Arimidex I lose mornng wood this is the first thing that happens so I stop taking it until wood comes back. Then I got back on it but cut the dose trouble is E's change so fast you need to keep on top of this. If I am going to high I get no wood also but it has to go dam high for this to happen. First I will feel sore and hard nipples when it is going to high. I will also feel hot and panic sweat a lot.
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Hi everyonne. Just got results from lab tests and had high total Es and normal E2. I don't have the specific numbers yet though. My adrenals and thyroid are normal. Actually, everything was pretty good inclding HGH, DHT and DHEA. My T (free, unbound and total) was a little low (around 400 ng/dl), but that's because I only take 40 mg of T cypionate every three days and 100 IU of HCG every day. Dr. John bumbed me up to 60 mg every three days, HCG as before, and start .25 mg of Arimadex every other day; I start this program tomorrow. He said my total Es were very high. I've been experiencing anxiety, low libido, low strength, lack of concentration. Can my situation cause these kinds of issues? I though it was just high E2 that caused these problems. Phil, I seem to remember you may have had this issue as well. I appreciate any feedback.
Would you please post all your labs with ranges. What day and time did you do your T shot and what day and time did you draw blood for the labs? What is your dosage of DHEA? What time do you take your DHEA and do you take it with food and with anything else that is oily? Are your T shots IM or SubQ? What time do you do you do HCG and is it IM or SubQ?
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I got a new Thermometer yesterday the one 1cc said to get and my temp in the morning is 96.4 and the same on the Digital then at noon it is 97.1 so something is wrong.
This link shows how to measure the temperature correctly.
http://www.wilsonsthyroidsyndrome.co...psMeasured.htm

Leave the thermometer in your mouth for 3 minutes before reading.
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This link shows how to measure the temperature correctly.
http://www.wilsonsthyroidsyndrome.co...psMeasured.htm

Leave the thermometer in your mouth for 3 minutes before reading.
1cc this was a great link thanks now I know how to do this and when it says to check temp after you up for 3 hrs. So now I need to start over in the morning.
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I still get morning wood even though my total Es are high. But if I have sex the night before, I get very soft wood or no wood the next day. Anyone have this issue?

I'm going to take my first dose of Arimadex today. Should I take it in the morning or the evening and should I take it alone or with food? I'm not sure if it even makes a difference. Dr. John said my E2 is ideal. But by raising my T by 40 mg a week, it will raise my E2 so the Arimadex won't drop it too low, but the total Es are the real target. I never knew that Total Es cause such problems.
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I ran urinary labs. What labs did you run Kanecore? My labs were the top of normal range estrogen wise, but Dr. John has me taking I3C:-/ Were you out of ref range with your estrogen or just top of ref range? I started the I3C last night and have not noticed any improvement in erectile func. Still having issues with this and very rare morning wood. I am doing the typical 100 and 250 two days before and day injection day. I have even tried shots every 3 days, and HCG daily which has helped to a slight extent.
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I take my Arimidex first thing in the morning back in the day when my E2 was higher I would have panic attacks in the middle of the night when this would happen I started taking .5 mgs. in the middle of the night in less then 2 hrs. I would feel much better. Taking Xanax would not help that fast. Just remember you can do ok on low E2 but if wood stops stop the Arimidex until it comes back it to me means you went to low.
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