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Thanks 1cc I take it this way because I am on armour I need to take this first thing in the morning so I do the Iron 3 hrs after I eat I am told I need to keep the thyroid meds away from the iron pills.
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Thanks for the great post Marianco.
Phil,
In order for iron to absorb properly you need to take it on an empty stomach with 250mg-500mg vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid). Don't take anything else with the iron. The iron may bother your stomach taking it this way.
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Thanks 1cc I take it this way because I am on armour I need to take this first thing in the morning so I do the Iron 3 hrs after I eat I am told I need to keep the thyroid meds away from the iron pills.
Yes, the further away from your thyroid meds, the better. I think the recommendation is a minimum of 4 hours away from thyroid meds. It may be best to take it at bed time. This way you may have as much as 8 hours between iron and thyroid meds (depending on how long you sleep). This is the way I take iron.
Yes, the further away from your thyroid meds, the better. I think the recommendation is a minimum of 4 hours away from thyroid meds. It may be best to take it at bed time. This way you may have as much as 8 hours between iron and thyroid meds (depending on how long you sleep). This is the way I take iron.
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Good to hear from you Dr. marianco how are you good I hope.
I went on Iron pills doing 2 pills a day of Ferrous Fumarate 324 mg - 106 mg Elemental Iron.
At the time I had bad heartburn and reflux for yrs. I could not believe after on the iron pills my fatigue, breathing, heartburn and reflux are going. Then later we had to lower my dose of Armour I went hyper. The thing is my Dr. lowered me to low down from 4 grains to 3 and in 4 months my Free T3 came down from 375 to 300 and the heartburn and reflux are back. I have been reading about low thyroid causing low stomach acid can you tell us about this. I am back up to 3.5 grains and taking NOW® Super Enzymes 3 tablets at each meal this is helping a lot.
How is the book going.
Look into Feosol Carbonyl Iron. It does not mess with your stomach. Read the studies on it.
The first effect of iron overdose is irritation and ulceration of the stomach lining. Which in turn can results in nausea, abdominal pain etc,..
Now Look into Feosol Carbonyl Iron. It does not mess with your stomach like Normal Iron sulphate or Ferrous Fumarate Supplements do. Kids have taken amounts of Carbonyl Iron that would be lethal if it was your normal iron supplement yet it didn't even get them sick.
Great thanks for the heads up the Feosol Carbonyl Iron has more Elemental Iron 225 mgs in one cap I was taking 2 to get 212. This looks like it would work great . I can't do Licorice it makes me feel hyper something to do with my thyroud and adrenals.
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Look into Feosol Carbonyl Iron. It does not mess with your stomach. Read the studies on it.
The first effect of iron overdose is irritation and ulceration of the stomach lining. Which in turn can results in nausea, abdominal pain etc,..
Now Look into Feosol Carbonyl Iron. It does not mess with your stomach like Normal Iron sulphate or Ferrous Fumarate Supplements do. Kids have taken amounts of Carbonyl Iron that would be lethal if it was your normal iron supplement yet it didn't even get them sick.
Regular licorice root will mess with your cortisol retention and aldersterone. Probably why you get hyper on it and it's used to supplement cortisol. BUT DGL "Deglycyrrhizinated" Licorice won't mess with your blood pressure or cortisol retention like pure licorice root does. But it does heal stomach and intestinal linings.
Also the cheaper Feosol that's shaped like a Triangle. Its just regular "Ferrous Sulfate" and won't help you.
Feosol® Caplets contain Carbonyl iron. <-GOOD Pure Carbonyl Iron. That won't cause all the stomach problems. Read the studies on the net.
Feosol® Tablets contain Ferrous Sulfate <---BAD Sulfates that trash your stomach.
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Great thanks for the heads up the Feosol Carbonyl Iron has more Elemental Iron 225 mgs in one cap I was taking 2 to get 212. This looks like it would work great . I can't do Licorice it makes me feel hyper something to do with my thyroud and adrenals.
Thanks I am getting both and will give them a try can't hurt to try it. The Feosol link you gave me is what I am getting I am just hoping it has as much Elemental Iron as the brand I am now on it has 106 mgs per pill I was on 2 pills a day now on one.
Regular licorice root will mess with your cortisol retention and aldersterone. Probably why you get hyper on it and it's used to supplement cortisol. BUT DGL "Deglycyrrhizinated" Licorice won't mess with your blood pressure or cortisol retention like pure licorice root does. But it does heal stomach and intestinal linings.
Also the cheaper Feosol that's shaped like a Triangle. Its just regular "Ferrous Sulfate" and won't help you.
Feosol® Caplets contain Carbonyl iron. <-GOOD Pure Carbonyl Iron. That won't cause all the stomach problems. Read the studies on the net.
Feosol® Tablets contain Ferrous Sulfate <---BAD Sulfates that trash your stomach.
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Well I had to stop it effected my Thyroid and HC meds I just got back from having a stress test on my heart I think something is wrong with my stomach low acid or high acid. Becaure to do this stress test I had to fast from 6pm last night guess what no heartburn last night or this morning test was done at 11am I come home ate and now have heartburn. My Iron is still low Dr. thinks it is do to my Folate RBC being to low. Nothing I take is helping with the Heartburn I tried the licorice, Betaine Hydrochloride With Pepsin, NOW® Super Enzyme and Anti acids. No help. Dr. says it will go away when I get my thyroid beck up with my iron levels.
I am on Feosol® Caplets as per carbonium but when I went on it I only took on tablet and my Iron levels went down Dr. said I need to take 3 to 4 of them a day still they are better on my stmach.
When will this all end.
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DGL licorice does not cause the effects on adrenals/thyroid as regular licorice, because the active ingredient glycyrrhizin is removed.
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