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just wondering to hear from any of the older guys that have been on hgh injections for a while and no testosterone injections or gels...... curious about the anecdotal reports that I have been hearing about hgh improving libido and wellbeing

my gut feeling tells me that the sermorelin route isn't the way to go, have my reasons to believe that but that is a different topic, but hgh on the other hand still intrigues me, so I'd love to hear from some of you that are running only hgh for rejuv purposes and how or if it improved your sexual life in any way along with anything else you may have noticed
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just wondering to hear from any of the older guys that have been on hgh injections for a while and no testosterone injections or gels...... curious about the anecdotal reports that I have been hearing about hgh improving libido and wellbeing

my gut feeling tells me that the sermorelin route isn't the way to go, have my reasons to believe that but that is a different topic, but hgh on the other hand still intrigues me, so I'd love to hear from some of you that are running only hgh for rejuv purposes and how or if it improved your sexual life in any way along with anything else you may have noticed
Talk to colkurtz_spf at AM board.
He is over 50 doing (succesfull) HCG (only) for few years now.

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Talk to colkurtz_spf at AM board.
He is over 50 doing (succesfull) HCG (only) for few years now.
you might have misread my post, I am talking about HGH, not HCG

I have tried all kinds of hcg experiments over the years and honestly hate hcg

my current thinking is because I want to completely stay away from any of the direct testosterone/estrogen manipulation and I am curious to hear from others that may be on hgh only and how it is affecting them overall
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you might have misread my post, I am talking about HGH, not HCG

I have tried all kinds of hcg experiments over the years and honestly hate hcg

my current thinking is because I want to completely stay away from any of the direct testosterone/estrogen manipulation and I am curious to hear from others that may be on hgh only and how it is affecting them overall
Indeed I missread.
I do not use GH.

But I just got e-mail from compounding pharmacy advertising (all legal, prescription required) good stuff that they have.

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Good question. I have wondered about this too as my IGF-1 levels have been off. GH raises T. How is GH safety-wise compared to HCG and/or T?
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chap.... Will injecting HGH not cause natural shutdown production of growth hormone?? I am inclined to thinking YES. That's why I don't even approach the topic.
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chap.... Will injecting HGH not cause natural shutdown production of growth hormone?? I am inclined to thinking YES. That's why I don't even approach the topic.
I worry about that side of it too, but the one difference is that it seems that we are really programmed by nature to shut down natural growth hormone regardless, as we age (not so much with testosterone but still).... you are right though, it would be playing in areas that might have unintended effects and long term implications for whether a person could just stop again and not suffer some kind of rebound problems

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injecting gh does not decrease endogenous gh. It will raise testosterone by about 10%. For many this would not be enough. When I stopped prescribed gh, I upped the test. cyp.
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is that 10% testosterone rise pretty consistent with most patients? does it come with an estrogen rise too?

it is curious how exogenous hgh wouldn't affect endogenous hgh production, I wonder how the feedback system works for proper levels in the system?
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is that 10% testosterone rise pretty consistent with most patients? does it come with an estrogen rise too?

it is curious how exogenous hgh wouldn't affect endogenous hgh production, I wonder how the feedback system works for proper levels in the system?
that's an average. GH does not balance with other hormones like testosterone does with other members in its axis. so it does not aromitize. do you know the best way to increase gh production? besides taking it of course!
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