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Recap from old thread:

I am 38 years old and starting to show the signs of (aging) lower test levels. I still have a great body, strong as a bull, and have never used any steriods. I don't say this to brag just as backround information. It has been a lot harder lately to stay in shape, having problems sleeping, don't have the libido I once had, don't have the mental clarity I once had, recovery is horrible, jewels have gotten smaller, and most heart breaking I can not stay awake around 4:00 PM. No drugs or alcohol problems ever. I have had serious blows and injuries to the body thou. An MRI of my head was done and everything came back OK. Aches and pains in the joints and muscles are getting worse and worse.

My blood work was at taken at 10:30 AM

total was at 429 ng/dL reference scale of 241-827
free was at 15.8 PG/ml reference scale of 8.7 - 25


New blood work done at 1:30 PM (8 months later) after not eating for 5 hours and previously only having a light breakfast.


Total test:_________ 362 ng/dl 241-827
Free test _________ 15 pg/ml 8.7-25

T4 (free) _________ 1.14 ng/dl .61 - 1.76
T4 _________ 6.6 ug/dl 4.5 - 12
T3 _________ 106 ng/dl 85-205

Estradiol _________ 25 pg/ml 0 - 53

TSH _________ 1.624 uIU/ml .350 - 5.5
LH _________ 3.4 miu/ml 1.5 - 9.3
FSH _________ 2.5 miu/ml 1.4 - 18.1

Glucose _________ 91 mg/dl 65 - 99

What do you guys think? By the way doctor already said I could benefit from TRT?
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Default Re: Should I go on HRT? Take 2

Personally i would stay out of this game of tweaking hormones if you feel at say "B+". Tweaking may get you to an "A", but the trial/error and worrying about this shit is not worth it if you dont have to.

If you really wanted to get into it, I would get your cortisol levels checked via saliva test to show if you are low as you state you cant stay awake at 4pm. could be adrenal related.

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Do you snore? If so, you might think about a sleep study to rule out sleep apnea.
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I think you may have low thyroid hormone activity looking at the thyroid panel. What is your basal body temp first thing?
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Do you snore? If so, you might think about a sleep study to rule out sleep apnea.
Wife tells me I snore sometimes but actual sleep is not the problem.
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I think you may have low thyroid hormone activity looking at the thyroid panel. What is your basal body temp first thing?
For a long time (years) it was at 97.3 (I think) never getting over 98. At the time I had no symptons thou. I just accepted this as just being me. I will be taking my temp in the morning.
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For a long time (years) it was at 97.3 (I think) never getting over 98. At the time I had no symptons thou. I just accepted this as just being me. I will be taking my temp in the morning.
If you are feeling shitty and have a low body temp this tells you a lot regarding your metabolic health. Thyroid activity is controlled by metabolism and vice versa

If all is not well I would at least start with the nutri-meds dessicated thyroid glandular and then think about armour
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Have you considered the 24 hour saliva hormone panel? This may help clear things up. Diagnos Techs told me a lot
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