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Old 11-05-2009, 05:08 PM
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i don't know where to begin but i will starte by saying that i messed myself up i guess. i have been going doctors like i owe them money, because 3 yrs ago i useed pro hormone supplement and i didn't cycle them right. i never used pct before because i was ignorant thinking it wouldn't shut my hpta axis down so hard. i used to think that prohormone wasn't steroid. I'm 28yrs old and my testosterone serum is 95, my lh and fsh is high, i hardly get erection, i'm depressed everyday and can't function as i used to, i'm so scared cuz some times i feel like ending it. i don't want to get on trt cuz i wanna have kids, just trying to restart my system. please can anyone help me out with some advice, i will really appreciate it.
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Your best bet is to see Dr. John at All Things Male - Center for Men's Health if you want to get your self jump started again he can do it. IF you can get your Dr. to work with him over the phone he does this or fly out and see him he only needs to see your once then the rest he can do by phone or Email.

You shut your self down and if your lucky he can get you started again you will not need TRT.
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c'mon any advise........
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But is this normal for my lh and fsh to be high after cessation, and low t?
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this means your balls are desensitized to the effects of lh/fsh, the signal is there and strong, but your boys aren't answering the phone.
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Has anyone experience this before, that will really shed a light in my case......Thanks
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Just to add on this, 2 weeks ago i had erection for abt a week and it was gone the fellowing week. I know it takes a while for the body to adjust and come to equilibrum, but is that a sign saying that it's in the process of coming back? i will really appreciate some comment...Thanks.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:41 PM
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this means your balls are desensitized to the effects of lh/fsh, the signal is there and strong, but your boys aren't answering the phone.
In short this answer is exactly right.

You need to post your stats (age, wieght, etc)
You need to post your protocol used. (what drugs you took and how long, what else you are and have taken.
Most importantly you need to post your bloodwork.

Have you considered thryroid and adrenals yet.. What kind of doc you have? INternal medicine. You have only given enough info to diagnose "broken Balls", or secondary failure, which could be caused by anything from testicular cancer, being Jenna Jamison's boyfriend for a month. Are they atrophied? Give more data...
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I have an endocronogist who seen to prescribe trt without even looking to jump start my system naturally. I feel that most doctors don't have idea on this kind of issue. When my doctor saw the reading he said that i have primary and he even asked me if i had kinefelter syd. He even chked my cromosome and saw that it was ok and he still can't believe that it was the prohormone i used that caused it.

Fsh 45.1 H
lh 24 H
t 97L and sometimes it goes up to 102L
dhea 292, it was 268L before and just went up to 292 as of last week
PROLACTIN 6.8
Etradiol 31
Cortisol 6.7
insulin growth factor 239

At first early this year in jan when i chked it, my test was abt 118L , my pcp gave me 200mg every 2 weeks for abt a month. Then after that i decided to come off to get my own natural test, when i tested my test, i found out that it dropped to 102. I stoped taking prohormone pill this year in january 2009 and stopped trt in March2009.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:17 PM
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i was on Superdrol for 3yrs and took one month off of every 4week cycle
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