Men's Health Forum: This is a discussion on Injection Dosages - HRT purposes within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; This is purely an information finding post. I am going to stick to my 125mg of testosterone enthanate weekly for ...
This is purely an information finding post. I am going to stick to my 125mg of testosterone enthanate weekly for now to see how my levels build up over the course of 6/8 weeks. I will be injecting IM (Thigh) an alternating injection sites between legs to minamize scar tissue buildup. I will give this protocol a go for a few months (2/3) and see how my levels look in 6/8 weeks or so.
No matter what happens i want to use HCG alongside the test e. My ultimate goal here is to try and get my testicles back working and to normal size while doing TRT. So i can get the benefits of normal t levels and testicular size/function back too (stopping that dam "tightness" and the nasty shrunken nuts). It truelly is 50/50 if i will respond to the HCG and it might be possible to get testicular size back, but i won't give up hope, espically since my LH/FSH weren't elevated at any stage of this illness. No idea how i will respond to HCG since my second varicocele operation failed and there is still a small varicocele present.
I don't really want to inject test e bi-weekly simply because i don't like injecting much and want to minimize injections were possible. Once a week is more than ideal. I would never consider 2/3 or monthly injections either due to the fluctuation in levels.
I have a question however. When i buy the test e it comes in 3 amps of 250mg of test each. I usually inject half an amp each week which gives me a total of 6 weeks usuage at 125mg weekly. I know some guy's simply need more test than others, i am really skinny so i was hoping i should respond pretty well to 125mg weekly. Is there anyone on the forum doing 250mg weekly? Assuming i was a naturally low E2 male and getting E2 high was difficult, would it be dangerous to run 250mg weekly? I hear a few people on this forum mention 200mg should be the min for HRT purposes per week. So i am guessing 250mg would put you really high range.
Would there be long term risks using 200/250mg weekly for HRT purposes? For example, stress on the heart, muscles, vascular system, etc?
My plan is to stick to 125mg weekly, then after 2/3 months get tested and start adding in 3 weekly dosages of 250iu HCG to try and get testicular size back.
However i definitelly woudl consider 250mg weekly if it gave good benefits. Would like to hear personal experiences on this. I am sure love_en was using 250mg weekly for hrt purposes.
How did your variocele get diagnosed? It's a bit scary, as I read that they are in 15-20% of males and often have no symptoms. What were the symptoms that led you to getting this discovered?
I have a question however. When i buy the test e it comes in 3 amps of 250mg of test each. I usually inject half an amp each week which gives me a total of 6 weeks usuage at 125mg weekly. I know some guy's simply need more test than others, i am really skinny so i was hoping i should respond pretty well to 125mg weekly. Is there anyone on the forum doing 250mg weekly? Assuming i was a naturally low E2 male and getting E2 high was difficult, would it be dangerous to run 250mg weekly? I hear a few people on this forum mention 200mg should be the min for HRT purposes per week. So i am guessing 250mg would put you really high range.
Can't say for sure, but i don't think an extra 75-100mgs of test would carry that much more risk. However 400+mg is a significant increase which i would definitely think has more benefits(muscle, libido?) and side effects than 200mg or less. 400+mg is typical low end/beginner steroid *cycle* dose for test. I don't think 200-250mg would be very dangerous if you cared for your liver, lipid, bp, cardio exercise, and of course regular bloodwork. Im not a doctor so carefully weigh risks/benefits.
Maybe im wrong, but i don't think being skinny or body weight has that much difference on how much test your body gets from replacement, according to Dr John.
I'm glad you aren't suicidal and so depressed. At least it doesn't seem that way. A counselor or psychologist/psychiatrist might help in many areas of your life. I started seeing a psychologist a few months ago for depression and it has done a world of good. PM me if it sounds helpful to you.
But man, you need to stop obsessing over this. Don't worry about this until you need to. Give the 125mg test shots time like you said, THEN see how you feel and IF you need to increase it or add something(hCG, anti-e, etc.) Hell, even YOU might need some Arimidex in a month. I wanted my doctor to prescribe me hcg, adex the same day she gave me the testosterone, she told me to wait and see if i had any symptoms. I can relate to how you feel. I not really a patient person, i want everything to happen right away.
Do you workout? I'm asking because even if you can't feel anything yet, maybe you will notice weights are increasing in the gym.
This is purely an information finding post. I am going to stick to my 125mg of testosterone enthanate weekly for now to see how my levels build up over the course of 6/8 weeks. I will be injecting IM (Thigh) an alternating injection sites between legs to minamize scar tissue buildup. I will give this protocol a go for a few months (2/3) and see how my levels look in 6/8 weeks or so.
No matter what happens i want to use HCG alongside the test e. My ultimate goal here is to try and get my testicles back working and to normal size while doing TRT. So i can get the benefits of normal t levels and testicular size/function back too (stopping that dam "tightness" and the nasty shrunken nuts). It truelly is 50/50 if i will respond to the HCG and it might be possible to get testicular size back, but i won't give up hope, espically since my LH/FSH weren't elevated at any stage of this illness. No idea how i will respond to HCG since my second varicocele operation failed and there is still a small varicocele present.
I don't really want to inject test e bi-weekly simply because i don't like injecting much and want to minimize injections were possible. Once a week is more than ideal. I would never consider 2/3 or monthly injections either due to the fluctuation in levels.
I have a question however. When i buy the test e it comes in 3 amps of 250mg of test each. I usually inject half an amp each week which gives me a total of 6 weeks usuage at 125mg weekly. I know some guy's simply need more test than others, i am really skinny so i was hoping i should respond pretty well to 125mg weekly. Is there anyone on the forum doing 250mg weekly? Assuming i was a naturally low E2 male and getting E2 high was difficult, would it be dangerous to run 250mg weekly? I hear a few people on this forum mention 200mg should be the min for HRT purposes per week. So i am guessing 250mg would put you really high range.
Would there be long term risks using 200/250mg weekly for HRT purposes? For example, stress on the heart, muscles, vascular system, etc?
My plan is to stick to 125mg weekly, then after 2/3 months get tested and start adding in 3 weekly dosages of 250iu HCG to try and get testicular size back.
However i definitelly woudl consider 250mg weekly if it gave good benefits. Would like to hear personal experiences on this. I am sure love_en was using 250mg weekly for hrt purposes.
You need to wait out the 6/8 weeks, get some blood tests & see how u feel then - before changing anything or increasing the dose.
It takes time for your body to adjust to the new levels - it is not magic and wont happen over night. If you keep playing with doses, diff meds etc and never wait long enough for results. You will continue to go in this nasty circle - and never get the benefits or find the right treatment for you.
Adding extra T right now without tests could easily blow some other hormones out of balance making u feel worse... You really need to prove your levels with blood tests first.
On Tcyp I got my total T up to 1135 with just 90 mg per week so I have cut back to 80 mg / week. I'm also taking HCG and am making 200-300 of it myself I think. At least this is what I was making when on HCG alone with no Tcyp. I would not increase the dose if I were you until you wait it out and get tested. Your estradiol will go way too high if you get your T too high.
Thanks for the reply's guys. Basically i am required (as part of my job) to walk 13 miles a day. It's tough going and i am scared that i am using up all my test doing this day in, day out. I believe i have always had high test levels (naturally) because one of my readings before was 25.2nmol, that was before i had most of these symptoms and my testicle had only shrunk a little due to the varicocele.
I will wait the full 6/8 weeks and get blood work done again. It will be my 4th injection this friday, so i will see how thing's progress doing this for a few months. It's difficult to be patient when you are seeing little improvement (guess that's what being a guy is all about - no patience!).
So far i am feeling slightly better but nothing radical. Still weak wood and still low libido. My penis is wanting to go inside me too at times and shrinking up real bad. I can't even get a semi anymore without stimulation, really sucks.
James, Varicocele usually dosen't cause problems for "some" men but for some reason it knocked my whole hormone system to pot. I was born with my right testicle undescended which was the start of the problems. Even though this was brought down early, it never really got that big or like the left one. I always joked that i was a one ball wonder because the right testicle was so small compared to the left one (which was easily 2+ inches).
However my dad injured me (by accident - though he can be very careless) and it caused a kind of "tugg" to happen on the left testicle which caused a varicocele that very night. Ever since then i literally sat back and watched symptom after symptom appear. I thought i was going out my mind. I was flushing like crazy, having night sweets, degrading erectial function, lowering libido, joint/muslce pains, dry skin, etc...All in the space of 3 months.
So my previously 2+ inch testicle went down to the size of a grape and my piturity didn't do anything about it. My LH has remained at 3.9 the whole time...
On Tcyp I got my total T up to 1135 with just 90 mg per week so I have cut back to 80 mg / week. I'm also taking HCG and am making 200-300 of it myself I think. At least this is what I was making when on HCG alone with no Tcyp. I would not increase the dose if I were you until you wait it out and get tested. Your estradiol will go way too high if you get your T too high.
Farmerjohn;
What are your TT, SHBG and Albumin numbers now?
Are you happy with them?
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