Introduction

[nuncaquite]

Hello gentlemen, Ive been trolling you board here for weeks, especially this forum. Its been a great help in improving my education on the subject of HRT. At this moment I am in an internet cafe outside of the USA, I say this because the keyboard Im using is smaller and a bit different than the US version, so please forgive any ms words or strange characters in this intro.
I just got bloodwork back from the lab, Im going to give my numbers and hopefully someone will have some good advice for me.
TOTAL TEST 1026 NGDL
FREE TEST 51.3 PGML
ESTRADIOL 51.7 PGML
DHEA 141UGDL
LH LESS THAN 0.10MUIML
FSH LESS THAN 0.10MUIML
PROLACTIN 3,39 NGML
CREATINE 0.9
TSH 3.80 UIML
T4 6.66 UGDL
T3 125NGDL
Im 44 years old and running 140mgs test enanthate per week. WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE?
Keep in mind that these labs where done in a Spanish speaking country. Some of the other test where not easily avalible, and some of the terms for the amounts may be different than US terms, but I think that you will get the jist of the results.
I would like the thank everyone in this forum for the education on this subject

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by nuncaquite

Hello gentlemen, Ive been trolling you board here for weeks, especially this forum. Its been a great help in improving my education on the subject of HRT. At this moment I am in an internet cafe outside of the USA, I say this because the keyboard Im using is smaller and a bit different than the US version, so please forgive any ms words or strange characters in this intro.
I just got bloodwork back from the lab, Im going to give my numbers and hopefully someone will have some good advice for me.
TOTAL TEST 1026 NGDL
FREE TEST 51.3 PGML
ESTRADIOL 51.7 PGML
DHEA 141UGDL
LH LESS THAN 0.10MUIML
FSH LESS THAN 0.10MUIML
PROLACTIN 3,39 NGML
CREATINE 0.9
TSH 3.80 UIML
T4 6.66 UGDL
T3 125NGDL
Im 44 years old and running 140mgs test enanthate per week. WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE?
Keep in mind that these labs where done in a Spanish speaking country. Some of the other test where not easily avalible, and some of the terms for the amounts may be different than US terms, but I think that you will get the jist of the results.
I would like the thank everyone in this forum for the education on this subject

How many hours after the testosterone shot have you drawn blood for testing.
48-72 is prefered, but pick one and the same for future tests, for consistency reason.

Get SHBG tested;
Get E2 "ultrasensitive" test
Provide ranges and units for all your results.
Off hand you may have high E2, but not sure.
You may have some thyroid problem TSHis more than 2
get thyroid panel:
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T3 Free
T4,Free
reverse T3 (rT3)
TSH
Thyroid Peroxidase and Thyroglobulin Antibodies (7260X)
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What are your complaints?

If you can, consider more complete testing.
look at my list, post #44
Jan's BloodTest April13/2007 - Page 2

[nuncaquite]

Thanks JANSz for the reply. My complaint is that my libido is in the dirt, sometimes below the dirt. Other times for short periods of time it is normal---to---skyrocket. I had some depresion in the past and worked it out just fine with a little TRT, but the sex drive just isnt there enough of the time. When that is combined with the fact that Ive been with the wife for 20 years (the bordom factor) there is just not much fun around the house. I would really like to work this problem to a good end. My wife isnt going anywhere, but she is pretty darn good too me and Im thinking I should show a little more appreciation. I think you know what I mean.
Ive also been using DIM for a few weeks, and maybe its all in my head but I at least think Im feeling a bit better. Just not better enough.
I maybe should add that Im in rather good physical condition for a man of 44 years. Still quite the naturalbornkiller, so my problems are probably not as much physical as they are technical. I think the Devil is the smaller less obvious details.

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by nuncaquite

Thanks JANSz for the reply. My complaint is that my libido is in the dirt, sometimes below the dirt. Other times for short periods of time it is normal---to---skyrocket. I had some depresion in the past and worked it out just fine with a little TRT, but the sex drive just isnt there enough of the time. When that is combined with the fact that Ive been with the wife for 20 years (the bordom factor) there is just not much fun around the house. I would really like to work this problem to a good end. My wife isnt going anywhere, but she is pretty darn good too me and Im thinking I should show a little more appreciation. I think you know what I mean.
Ive also been using DIM for a few weeks, and maybe its all in my head but I at least think Im feeling a bit better. Just not better enough.
I maybe should add that Im in rather good physical condition for a man of 44 years. Still quite the naturalbornkiller, so my problems are probably not as much physical as they are technical. I think the Devil is the smaller less obvious details.

Figure out your action plan based on my first post.

[hardasnails1973]

Depending on your biochemistry DIM may work every one is different and it also depends on what brand you are taking that can make the biggest impact as well. If you are on an esttrogen roller coaster rde split the shot up in to 2 times a week and keep on the DIM and then remeasure in 4-6 weeks to see if your blood results changes.
Also as Jasz mention examine thyroid, adrenals, dhea-s levels as another alternative to feeling like shit..

[nuncaquite]

Thanks for getting back with me on this. Ive been out of the country and as par for the course Ive come back sick from the water or just the general unsanitary conditions. They dont quite understand the idea of ''cross contamination'' They will prep raw meat or fish while preparing a salad, never washing hands.

While down south I bought some fermera, (arimedex was not availble), just as an experiment I took it for a few days to see if estrogen might be one of the culprits in my situation. I stopped because of the illness, but one thing is for sure, I became one mean SOB in short order. I dont know if it was the fermera or not..........I feel like hell right now, so Im keeping it short.........Thanks for your input.

[nuncaquite]

You guy's have given me somethings to think about. The TSH levels didnt really bother me at first, but after more research I find that 5 is the top end for my age group and Im at 3.80. Thats just about a 4, so thats not too good either.
I was also wondering what I can do about my extremely low LH. Ive got access to clomid. Will that work to raise LH while on TRT of 140mgs TE per week?
I think that the largest obstacle that I may have to overcome is finding a DR. in my area to help me through this. My DR. will be useless and that is at his very best.
If someone has the time, please advise me on that LH question......thanks