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Old 03-23-2006, 12:37 PM
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I think the issue of libido is quite complicated. There seems to be some consensus that it is related to dopamine. I read these posts where guys are on TRT and their libido does not go up. Than their told to regulate their E2 and their libido still does not go up. I tried the androgel route and my Total T and free T were pretty good and my E2 was normal and my libido did not go up.

Personally I've had better results with drugs that affect dopamine. I've found that 5 - 10 milligrams of selegiline has had a good affect on my libido and sometimes I've combined that with phenylalanine. I've also found that when I'm on ritalin my libido goes up. I believe that ritalin affects dopamine release.

One summer several years ago I put together a cocktail of selegiline + phenylalanine + low dose t3 + .25 mg arimidex eod. I was not on any type of testosterone supplementation. My libido was sky high while i was on that combo. I felt good and also had a lot of energy.
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Personally I think Bromo is better on a one time basis than either Dostinex or Selegiline. Caber is getting all the hype, but for me personally I have not had the results.

I have yet to see anything that works on a constant basis either. For me it has to be on and off. I do use the anti parkinsons on a very low dose basis for anti-aging purposes. Also to me, age is a major consideration. One will never feel 17 again, and I attribute this to the brain's having to cope with stress for too many years and the concomitant changes in brain chemistry, and or receptor down regulation. Perhaps hGH is the answer, but that is in another thread.

I do think you are touching on what is everyones focus here. We all want to turn back the clock... the great experiment, for quality of life is at stake. If one told me I would only live another 10-15 years, but I could live it as a 25 year old, I'd do it in a heart beat and throw the last 15+ years of possible life away. But that is just me.
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One summer several years ago I put together a cocktail of selegiline + phenylalanine + low dose t3 + .25 mg arimidex eod. I was not on any type of testosterone supplementation. My libido was sky high while i was on that combo. I felt good and also had a lot of energy.
This is an interesting thread. I also think there is a lot more to libido than just T. It's interesting that the stuff you took which affects cognitive ability and energy, increases libido. I think lack of cognitive energy and ability is a major factor in low libido.
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Yes I feel the same way about enhancing cognitive abilities. Whenever my mind feels stimulated my overall mood increases. Testosterone is only a piece of the puzzle. I believe the first issue to be addressed is getting your neurotransmiters optimally functioning.
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There is a lot of info in this link of links on libido.
http://qualitycounts.com/fptestosterone.html
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One summer several years ago I put together a cocktail of selegiline + phenylalanine + low dose t3 + .25 mg arimidex eod. I was not on any type of testosterone supplementation. My libido was sky high while i was on that combo. I felt good and also had a lot of energy.
What would the T3 have to do with libido?

How long did you stay on this combination?

More importantly, why did you stop this combination?

... and if your libido is low now, why don't you do it again?
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I was on that combo the whole summer. I decided to give it a rest and see how I felt off the combo. I used small doses of t3 to augment my synthroid just to see how I felt. I don't know if the whole combo worked synergetically or one of the items was mainly responsibel for the rise in libido.

I'm on ritalin right now for adhd and that seems to help my libido. But I'm thinking of stopping the ritalin and trying the combo once more. I really don't like the idea of being on stimulants that long.
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What were your doses of selegiline and d,l-phenylalanine?

I have d,l-phenylalanine powder that I believe to be 700mg per "serving." It is the LEF brand that comes with megadoses of C and B-6. I would normally take two servings totalling 1400mg. I often wonder if I am overdosing.
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I took 5 to 10 milligrams of selegiline a day plus about one serving of the LEF
phenylalanine mix.
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