lab Results

[Dutch Buster]

this are my labresults now i am more confused

i don't use any meds also no dhea
TEST TIME RESULTS REFERENCE RANGE (NMOL/L)
Salivary Cortisol 8.00am 22.0-- 6.0 to 33.0
12 Noon 15.9-- 4.0 to 28.0
4.00pm 13.0-- 4.0 to 11.8
Midnight 2.2-- 1.0 to 5.0
Salivary DHEA Sulphate 8.00am 6.7-- 4.0 to 29.0
12 Noon 6.1-- 2.5 to 13.0
4.00pm 12.2-- 2.0 to 6.0
Midnight 21.0-- 1.0 to 4.0

Comments:
Salivary Cortisol profile:
Overall profile indicates normal hormone output, normal circadian rhythm

Salivary DHEA-s profile:
Unusual and erratic hormone output – daytime results are within normal reference range, followed by values above reference range - ? medication-related

[Dutch Buster]

graphic of test

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TIEXL8Y6

[1cc]

Are you still taking sustanon and deca? Did you get Free T3 done?

[Dutch Buster]

Originally Posted by 1cc

Are you still taking sustanon and deca? Did you get Free T3 done?

no stoped that a while ago

and no free t3

butt no i realy don't know it any more.

[1cc]

Your labs indicate that your cortisol is not low. You need Free T3 together with TSH and Free T4 to determine if your thyroid is the problem.

[Dutch Buster]

next problem to day 5th and last doc said it's between my ears...


no docs left and also no bloodwork any more....

feel more cold and getting weight last weeks.

the test was done on a good day

[1cc]

Dutch,

You need to be properly evaluated. In order to accomplish this, you need a comprehensive set of labs done, such as described by Dr. John Crisler in the "Labs I Run" sticky at the top. It is extremely difficult to do this if you have to fight tooth and nail against your doctors to get this done. Your problem may be hormonal or it may be psychological, but you won't know for sure unless you are properly evaluated. I am pretty sure every single guy here that has had hormone problems has been told that their problem was all in their head more often than not. It would be a real shame if your problems were hormonal and you end up being medicated up to your eyeballs in psychiatric drugs by doctors who lack the ability to properly evaluate you. I would highly recommend that you find any breathing doctor with a white coat and a prescription pad that is willing to treat you in consultation with Dr. John Crisler. Dr. Crisler would essentially be be directing your treatment, and he is one of the best. This would be the quickest way for you to get to the bottom of your problem. You would get the treatment you need and any prescriptions necessary, which you are having a problem with now.

[Dutch Buster]

Originally Posted by 1cc

Dutch,

You need to be properly evaluated. In order to accomplish this, you need a comprehensive set of labs done, such as described by Dr. John Crisler in the "Labs I Run" sticky at the top. It is extremely difficult to do this if you have to fight tooth and nail against your doctors to get this done. Your problem may be hormonal or it may be psychological, but you won't know for sure unless you are properly evaluated. I am pretty sure every single guy here that has had hormone problems has been told that their problem was all in their head more often than not. It would be a real shame if your problems were hormonal and you end up being medicated up to your eyeballs in psychiatric drugs by doctors who lack the ability to properly evaluate you. I would highly recommend that you find any breathing doctor with a white coat and a prescription pad that is willing to treat you in consultation with Dr. John Crisler. Dr. Crisler would essentially be be directing your treatment, and he is one of the best. This would be the quickest way for you to get to the bottom of your problem. You would get the treatment you need and any prescriptions necessary, which you are having a problem with now.

okay thank you.

i go send a mail to Dr. Crisler and ask him of he works with a doc from Holland or belgium
i think that is the least diffecult way.

[1cc]

If you are able to get to Belgium, there is also an excellent doctor there, Dr. Thierry Hertoghe. He is the author of the book "The Hormone Solution", and he is also one of the best HRT doctors. He also may be able to refer you to doctors that he has personally trained either in Belgium or Holland. The following link has some info about him.

http://www.amazon.com/Hormone-Soluti...e=UTF8&s=books
http://www.antiageingconference.com/...4/hertoghe.htm

[Dutch Buster]

Originally Posted by 1cc

If you are able to get to Belgium, there is also an excellent doctor there, Dr. Thierry Hertoghe. He is the author of the book "The Hormone Solution", and he is also one of the best HRT doctors. He also may be able to refer you to doctors that he has personally trained either in Belgium or Holland. The following link has some info about him.

http://www.amazon.com/Hormone-Soluti...e=UTF8&s=books
http://www.antiageingconference.com/...4/hertoghe.htm

thanx belgium is only 40 km from here..

only i can't find his contact information ...

[Axl]

I will PM it to you.

[Dutch Buster]

+ 6 months wating list !!


with him and his sister also !


no i have to find the solution my self i cant wait an other +6 months to start treatment..


i have had it now..

[1cc]

Originally Posted by Dutch Buster

+ 6 months wating list !!


with him and his sister also !


no i have to find the solution my self i cant wait an other +6 months to start treatment..


i have had it now..

Dr. Hetoghe can refer you to other doctors he has trained (ask for a referal), or you can get in touch with Dr. John Crisler www.allthingsmale.com and he will consult with any local doctor you can find. This way you won't have to wait 6 months.

[Dutch Buster]

Originally Posted by 1cc

Dr. Hetoghe can refer you to other doctors he has trained (ask for a referal), or you can get in touch with Dr. John Crisler www.allthingsmale.com and he will consult with any local doctor you can find. This way you won't have to wait 6 months.

i called them back got 3 numbers

appoinment on 3-11

[1cc]

Originally Posted by Dutch Buster

i called them back got 3 numbers

appoinment on 3-11

Glad it worked out. That's not too long.