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Old 09-14-2005, 12:23 PM
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the last 2 weeks my libido has plummted! i havent drank at all in 5 weeks, the only substance in my body has been 100-200mg of codeine per day for back pain and sciatica.

my diet is superb lots of healthy fats - about 30% of daily calories and at least 5 pieces of fruit and veg per day and good fibre low GI carbs.

My libido was pretty good, now ive had to cancel 2 dates with my 22 year old fuck buddy and her friend as even with viagra i dont think i am up for it. this is a fucking NIGHTMARE. i have 2 young women wanting to be in my bed and i have to cancel twice? I need advice on supplements ASAP.

I will not use AAS or other androgens - i wont compromise my hormones anymore
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:31 PM
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Previous AAS use? Go to the doctor and get a blood test for at LEAST free testosterone. Might also be good to get things like CBC, comprehensive metabolic panel, total testosterone, estradiol, TSH, Free T3 and Free T4.
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dude, when did you stop taking aas? what were you taking and how much? did you do any PCT?
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The last time i used any steroids was 22 months ago. I used nolvadex and clomid for about 6 weeks or so. it took me a long time to bounce back, so i promised not to use any AAS again after that and havent.

My libido had been pretty good until the last month or so, ive stopped doing cardio due to time restrictions with work thats the only change.

I also havent drank in about 6 weeks now at all
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The last time i used any steroids was 22 months ago. I used nolvadex and clomid for about 6 weeks or so. it took me a long time to bounce back, so i promised not to use any AAS again after that and havent.

My libido had been pretty good until the last month or so, ive stopped doing cardio due to time restrictions with work thats the only change.

I also havent drank in about 6 weeks now at all
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It could be the codeine. I believe narcotics can lower testosterone and elevate estrogen. 100 to 200 milligrams sounds like a decent sized dose.
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I think i agree, i was also given diazepam for stress, and had used 10-20mg a day about twice a week for 6 weeks. No withdrawals as only used sparingly, but on the diazepam i felt no libido at all. Its been 3 weeks since any of that, and about a week since any codeine. Codeine was again 100-200mg once or twice a week at most, just when back pain was very bad

What is E2? i thought there was only one estrogen?

How long can these drugs affect hormonal profiles?
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I think i agree, i was also given diazepam for stress, and had used 10-20mg a day about twice a week for 6 weeks. No withdrawals as only used sparingly, but on the diazepam i felt no libido at all. Its been 3 weeks since any of that, and about a week since any codeine. Codeine was again 100-200mg once or twice a week at most, just when back pain was very bad

What is E2? i thought there was only one estrogen?

How long can these drugs affect hormonal profiles?
E2 is Estradiol and for me when it was high I had bad ED, could not reach an orgasm, was unable to have sex with my wife the only way I could was to use a pump and cock ring. Yet still I could not reach an orgasm this went on for 10 yrs. Then 2 yrs. ago I read about high E2 and got it tested. When my E2 came down I got my sex life back.
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i'll bare that in mind, the thing is i just think my test is low overall, it was 11ng on a scale of 8-29 last i had it checked about a year ago i think.

What im reluctant about is TRT as if i go and get shots, hcg etc, it obviously suppresses me further and may not work for libido anyhow, at that point ill be left with much much worse natural test at a later age in life when i know i will recover even worse than the 11ng i have at the moment.

When you have 2 women in bed AND have talen 50 mg viagra and after an hour are losing wood due to DISINTEREST theres a problem though
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I feel your pain but if you need help there is a lot of help hear. :-). But do get your E2 checked.
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Benzos will screw with your dopamine/ serotonin. No Dopamine no Libido. Valium has an amazing half life and the resulting DP changes last a long time after that. Have your prolactin checked too.
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I take one milligram klonopin for muscle spasms. I also take 5 milligrams of
selegiline to maintain dopamine levels. On this low dose of klonopin with the
selegiline i can still maintain a fairly good libido.
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Benzos will screw with your dopamine/ serotonin. No Dopamine no Libido. Valium has an amazing half life and the resulting DP changes last a long time after that. Have your prolactin checked too.
I think Ive found the culprit then, thanks bro, I wasnt aware it impacted so much. I'll find other stress busters

Bull, the selegiline, is that often prescribed for libido and anti-depressant properties? What are its side effects?

The whole dopamine link is used in a european erectile dysfunction drug called Uprima - which works to increase dopamine activity in the area of the brain which signals erections.

I have yet to use it yet and see what systemic or libido effects it has
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Uprima® is a potent agonist of dopamine. Specifically it acts upon D1 receptor sites, and this makes it different from the majority of ergot derived drugs for dopamine improvement, such as bromocriptine, which normally target D2 receptors. (21) Uprima® doesn’t act directly upon the penis like Viagra® or Befar®, but instead exerts its influence in the brain for arousal, pleasure, and orgasm. Uprima® acts upon receptors in the hypothalamus and can enhance erection by increasing the signals from the brain to begin the process. (9) Specifically, Uprima® induces selective activation in the nucleus paraventricularis, leading to erectogenic signals. (15)
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Uprima® is a potent agonist of dopamine. Specifically it acts upon D1 receptor sites, and this makes it different from the majority of ergot derived drugs for dopamine improvement, such as bromocriptine, which normally target D2 receptors. (21) Uprima® doesn’t act directly upon the penis like Viagra® or Befar®, but instead exerts its influence in the brain for arousal, pleasure, and orgasm. Uprima® acts upon receptors in the hypothalamus and can enhance erection by increasing the signals from the brain to begin the process. (9) Specifically, Uprima® induces selective activation in the nucleus paraventricularis, leading to erectogenic signals. (15)
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