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im convinced that the only way to keep good wood and libido for me at least is to go up and down in my t dose. when im steady i have a prob staying hard and no morning wood but when i do half doses every other week im hard as a rock from start to finish and morning wood is constant.
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what have you done to determine that a constant level is not better for you?
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when im steady i have a prob staying hard and no morning wood but when i do half doses every other week im hard as a rock from start to finish and morning wood is constant.
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I completely agree, but instead of manipulating T i manipulate Estro.

I take 1gram 5% test cream every day, but once a week or once every 10 days (Still working out best) I take adex and hcg together. I then ride it out as I think I go too low on estro and as it rises back up i feel good and libido and function is good.

Steady didn't work for me at all.
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Sounds like your estradiol levels are too high, and cutting your dose brings it down on it's own. Trying starting with a low dose AI like Arimidex, 0.25mg EOD or E3D and see if that helps keep things more stable.

Bloodwork will also help zero in the appropriate dose.
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yes but my way keeps me in a constant state of wood when needed. using dim takes weeks to get back to center whether i go too high or too low so wood is infrequent.
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The guys are right your lowering your testosterone dose and this in turn is lowing your Estradiol. Now all that is left is what are your levels at this low dose and how do you feel. In time with testosterone levels to low it will take it's toll on you. You might feel this is good because you have good wood but men can have dam good wood with very low levels of testosterone and they don't feel good have a lot of feeling of depression and Fatigue for starters.

Here is what you need to do get your Total and Free T levels up into the upper 1/3 of your labs range and keep your Estradiol down between 10 to 30 best at 20 pg/ml. If doing DIM takes to long then switch to Arimidex taking .25mgs every 3 days.

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Maybe these hormones are "edge triggered" rather than "level triggered". Womens
hormones vary during their menstral cycle maybe mens hormones are supposed to
vary as well.

Another explanation is that T receptors degrade over time and that by cycling the T level
the receptor sensitivity is somehow maintained.

This board is full of stories from guys that had great results on TRT for about 2 weeks,
then it stops working. Estrogen is one explanation but there may be other reasons.
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when im steady i have a prob staying hard and no morning wood but when i do half doses every other week im hard as a rock from start to finish and morning wood is constant.
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HAve you tried a lower dose 2x a week? Avoiding a spike will help with an estrogen spike.
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HAve you tried a lower dose 2x a week? Avoiding a spike will help with an estrogen spike.
im almost thinking estrogen spikes help with wood. any thought???
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