Low HCG dosages (advice required)

[Megazoid]

On my other thread "HCG -- Confusion" i was asking about injecting HCG to restore testicular size.

I had purchased the HCG alongside some nolvadex but i didn't like what one article mentioned about nolvadex:

"Another of the "gurus" advocated preventing gynecomastia by taking nolvadex, an "estrogen blocker" or estrogen receptor antagonist. Considering that this lowers ones HDL ("good") cholesterol levels, causes serious liver damage, and blocks the production of IGF-1 and growth hormone by at least 35%, that doesn't sound like very good advice to us."

I am now scared to use this. My intention was to use nolvadex to stop HPTA shutdown. However i don't have estrogen problems at present (or at least i don't think i do).

I was intending to run HCG for 3 weeks without ANY other TRT or anything. I am getting zero support from doctors so i need to self-medicate to restore myself. I am confident but nervous about the whole injection process.

I am not on any form of TRT but my T levels are low. Various urologists and fertility experts have said that using HCG will help restore natural testosterone levels and sperm production.

Would it be possible to use HCG (250 iu) for 3 weeks (mon-wed-fri) alongside Zinc + DIM and not get shutdown? Any advice on the best protocol would be awsome.

[pmgamer18]

If you do a 100 IU shot everyday this would be better that is a 700IU shot a week. Do this for 6 weeks and get tested. If you feel better it's your testis makeing T if you don't feel anything then your testis are not making T. I still don't feel your doing the right thing here but don't want to see you do this wrong. So do the shots everyday into your thigh.

Originally Posted by Megazoid

On my other thread "HCG -- Confusion" i was asking about injecting HCG to restore testicular size.

I had purchased the HCG alongside some nolvadex but i didn't like what one article mentioned about nolvadex:

"Another of the "gurus" advocated preventing gynecomastia by taking nolvadex, an "estrogen blocker" or estrogen receptor antagonist. Considering that this lowers ones HDL ("good") cholesterol levels, causes serious liver damage, and blocks the production of IGF-1 and growth hormone by at least 35%, that doesn't sound like very good advice to us."

I am now scared to use this. My intention was to use nolvadex to stop HPTA shutdown. However i don't have estrogen problems at present (or at least i don't think i do).

I was intending to run HCG for 3 weeks without ANY other TRT or anything. I am getting zero support from doctors so i need to self-medicate to restore myself. I am confident but nervous about the whole injection process.

I am not on any form of TRT but my T levels are low. Various urologists and fertility experts have said that using HCG will help restore natural testosterone levels and sperm production.

Would it be possible to use HCG (250 iu) for 3 weeks (mon-wed-fri) alongside Zinc + DIM and not get shutdown? Any advice on the best protocol would be awsome.

[Megazoid]

Thanks Phil for the input. Part of me think's your protocol might be alot better. What about E2 issues Phil? Should i be taking anything to stop high E2? Would you give the Nolva a miss all togther? I would be scared that coming off the HCG might make thing's worse with shutdown.

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by Megazoid

Thanks Phil for the input. Part of me think's your protocol might be alot better. What about E2 issues Phil? Should i be taking anything to stop high E2? Would you give the Nolva a miss all togther? I would be scared that coming off the HCG might make thing's worse with shutdown.

Your not going to be shut down that bad on this dose and don't worry about E2 are you high now if not don't worry about it. If your high take some Indolplex/DIM. One tablet at dinner time. Were you tested I would not do this unless you get tests first.

[Megazoid]

Again, thanks for the reply Phil, you know your stuff well. The problem with the HCG is storage. I have 3 amps (not vials like in the US). I have 3 amps with 1500 HCG each and 3 matching solvents. Whats the best way to store the HCG once opened?

[Megazoid]

Also is it best to inject morning or night?

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by Megazoid

Again, thanks for the reply Phil, you know your stuff well. The problem with the HCG is storage. I have 3 amps (not vials like in the US). I have 3 amps with 1500 HCG each and 3 matching solvents. Whats the best way to store the HCG once opened?

JanSz told you the best way to mix and store this don't do it half assed. Read post #8 at this thread.
HCG -- Confusion

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by Megazoid

On my other thread "HCG -- Confusion" i was asking about injecting HCG to restore testicular size.

I had purchased the HCG alongside some nolvadex but i didn't like what one article mentioned about nolvadex:

"Another of the "gurus" advocated preventing gynecomastia by taking nolvadex, an "estrogen blocker" or estrogen receptor antagonist. Considering that this lowers ones HDL ("good") cholesterol levels, causes serious liver damage, and blocks the production of IGF-1 and growth hormone by at least 35%, that doesn't sound like very good advice to us."

I am now scared to use this. My intention was to use nolvadex to stop HPTA shutdown. However i don't have estrogen problems at present (or at least i don't think i do).

I was intending to run HCG for 3 weeks without ANY other TRT or anything. I am getting zero support from doctors so i need to self-medicate to restore myself. I am confident but nervous about the whole injection process.

I am not on any form of TRT but my T levels are low. Various urologists and fertility experts have said that using HCG will help restore natural testosterone levels and sperm production.

Would it be possible to use HCG (250 iu) for 3 weeks (mon-wed-fri) alongside Zinc + DIM and not get shutdown? Any advice on the best protocol would be awsome.

Today farmerjohn posted, he is treated by Dr Shippen,
looks like he feels 400IU of HCG, every day, long term is ok in his case.

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/516907-post1.html

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/516920-post3.html

[jimdmcd]

WOW ! 400IU QD long term would turn me into my mother !
I will pass

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by jimdmcd

WOW ! 400IU QD long term would turn me into my mother !
I will pass

Yep your right what Dr. Shippen was trying to do is not going to be a good Idea here. I wish he would just wate 6 more weeks.