Mayo Clinic position on Anti-Aging medicine. Comments?

[Gator8]

I was astonished to read the following page published by Mayo Clinic.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/anti-aging/HQ00233

Their stated concern for "liver damage" does not seem to be supported in current literature I've searched on PubMed.

[chip douglas]

I've just read that article. What came to mind in the hormone section of that article, is when they list possible severe ill effects of HRT did they imply Bioidentical hormone replacement ? I hear Susan Summers is doing pretty good on bioindentical HRT, and no doubt she looks great for her age.

Without a doubt I agree that the aging process in a very complex, and science hasn't yet found the holy grail to stop againg in it's track, but still, must we wait until say ten years from now, they find out that HRT has proven quite beneficial to get on it ? Of course, there are always two side of a coin, and in 10 years the reverse finding is likely too. However all of us are now aging, none of us escapes this process, so what should we then do ? Do nothing at all ? I'm not sure that's what I want to do.

The bottom line is anything you deciding on doing in life is potentially a gamble. The same people who tell who write such article as the one above, also tell us to eat much fruits, where fruits are relatively devoid of any nutrients as opposed to vegetables--have a look at this article by Roger Mason, biochemist : http://www.youngagainproducts.com/Ar...8/Default.aspx

Also the doctors proponents of not embarking on HRT, are they up to date as far as the latest research ? I'll take the instance of my PCP--he knows almost nothing regarding new research, and he's been so frank as to tell me that I had an edge over him as far as new medical discoveries go.....that's not the say he doesn't know anything, but it tells me that aside from the numerous booklets provided to them through the various drug companies reps going from one clinic to the next, they don't have much time to learn about new medical findings, unless as in the case of M.D's who chose to specialize in HRT, who sure have an edge over GP.

It's nonetheless interesting to see both sides of the coin.

Cheers

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by Gator8

I was astonished to read the following page published by Mayo Clinic.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/anti-aging/HQ00233

Their stated concern for "liver damage" does not seem to be supported in current literature I've searched on PubMed.

This is just a slam to Anti-Aging and HRT for men.

[JustOne]

Its a stupid article, there basicly saying testosterone is useless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73EC609GYD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmYxHTu4Vi4

Check out that. I cant believe that guy got 2 years for supply of steroids wtf.

[chip douglas]

Interesting eye-opener vids you linked us to--thanks

[JanSz]

Let me see:
5 years ago director of Sexual Health at University Hospital in Manhattan told me that I had just about my last ejaculation.
With the help of TRT, LEF, anti-aging, this board, he was proven wrong.
I continously have a problems but in the mean time ejaculate 2 -3 times per week.
Curse, adjust this adjust that and keep on ejaculating.

5years * 52 weeks * 2 ejaculations=520 ejaculations

Do I have to say more??

[love_en]

Originally Posted by Gator8

I was astonished to read the following page published by Mayo Clinic.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/anti-aging/HQ00233

Their stated concern for "liver damage" does not seem to be supported in current literature I've searched on PubMed.

It is in their best interest to promote the "sickness" industry. Men and women whose hormones are maintained at optimum levels have fewer chronic diseases. For example, the research is out there that testosterone is good for the heart. The Mayo ckinic way is to prescribe statin drugs, and a whole pharmacopia of drugs to mask symptoms. This is SOP for many conditions. Do they look for and treat hypothyroidism with Armour Thryoid? Do they promote awareness of adrenal insufficiency? NO and NO. Diagnosing and treating those problems on a large scale would turn the American system of healthcare upside down. We would no longer be a nation of tired, sick, and overweight people. The Mayo Clinic is the bastion of regressive medicine that helps insurance companies and the pharmaceutical industry get richer, while people get sicker.

[Gator8]

I think it's a misuse of status and authority for Mayo to publish these wrong statements on the internet.

The current medical evidence does not show injected or gel testosterone supplemenation poses any risk of liver cancer. I searched PubMed and I can't find it. The evidence is there that cardiovascular health, diabetes,sexual health, depression and quality of life can be improved by normalizing t levels. I would say at best they could caution that long term results are unknown. I was astonished and amazed to find their published position was so obsolete compared with current medical knowledge.

Really, I think it is dishonest.

[Andrew Androgen]

They are a bunch of wankers. They really are!