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Old 01-13-2009, 11:48 AM
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I have read every tread here on balls and HCG but just to make sure im not making my situation worse im gonna make my own thread and hope someone will point out my errors and answer some of my questions.

My balls got really small about 6-7 years ago with bad use of steroids (dbol, anavar).
Never did any PCT. Now im thinking about doing HCG to fix them. Dosage I have in mind is 200iu EOD. Just a small dose to make them go back to normal. If it does not give any results after 50 days I will increase the dose to maybe 500iu EOD.

Should I take nolvadex with this? I am not sure what nolvadex does besides that "its a good idea for a PCT".
Anything else I should think about?

Thanks for any help I get.
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im thinking the same thing i was on trt went off it and never did a pct i did a few serms 2 years later to maybe restart on my own but i think i need the hcg..i have an appt on monday and gettin a salava test
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:04 AM
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Do you think the dosage is ok and would you use nolvadex with it?
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I myself would use clomid along with the HCG and then continue the clomid for some time after the HCG.

Some people use Aromasin with HCG for a month on steroid boards, when coming off, along with clomid and then continue the clomid.
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Imho, taking hcg is not a solution. HCG simulates LH action, that means if u'll take HCG, natural LH will be dropped, so once get off HCG, probably testicular action should decrease for a short time because of less LH levels. So imho u should try to stimulate LH and testicular action, with clomiphene and decreasing estrogens with some AI.
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I have read every tread here on balls and HCG but just to make sure im not making my situation worse im gonna make my own thread and hope someone will point out my errors and answer some of my questions.

My balls got really small about 6-7 years ago with bad use of steroids (dbol, anavar).
Never did any PCT.
Now im thinking about doing HCG to fix them. Dosage I have in mind is 200iu EOD. Just a small dose to make them go back to normal. If it does not give any results after 50 days I will increase the dose to maybe 500iu EOD.

Should I take nolvadex with this? I am not sure what nolvadex does besides that "its a good idea for a PCT".
Anything else I should think about?

Thanks for any help I get.
Are you taking any steroids now, continously, cycling.

HCG normally is used in TRT.
Either as monotheraphy or to mantaing balls size while suplying testosterone
or combination.

Where are you?
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Old 01-14-2009, 03:35 PM
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I am not taking any steroids now. The shrinkage was a result from a stupid and careless cycle when I was younger. It was something like 50-100mg dbol iregular over 30-40 days and anavar when I could remember to take it. Stopped when my balls started hurting and shrunk and have not done any since.

The reason I decide for HCG is because I found this quote "Based on the longer half life of hCG, I believe 200iu EOD is the best dose for most men for maximizing testosterone production and testicular size without desensitization. I believe shooting EOD to be superior to ED as it will provide a sharper rise and more acute stimulus of T production." on the forums.

Bigger balls bigger LH receptors?

If HCG is not the answer where can I find more information about clomiphene? AI is something like clomid or nolvadex? I would prefer to use clomid over nolvadex since I have heard nolvadex has less side effects, dont know if that is true.

Thanks again for all answers will continue to read the forums to find mor answers.
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Bigger balls doesn't mean bigger receptors. Receptors cannot growth, bigger balls calculate as bigger than normal, means too LH or HCG and of course much testicular working.

Clomiphene is clomid. AI r arimidex, letrozole, ecc. Sum proviron could help too.
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hey clean,

when i stopped finasteride my balls shrank, so it has been 2 years now before I decided to do something about it. So 19 days ago, I started pct and took hcg to regrow my balls and nolvadex to increase the LH to help maintain my balls after hCG. It took about 3 days for me to have my balls return to normal. I've detailed everything in the journal below. good luck with whatever pct program u try. oneday


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Help me please -- Finasteride-induced secondary hypogonadism, low T/LH/FSH, high E
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Shit i thought that when one run a steroid cycle and didnt do PCT then his balls would return normal size albeit slowly but they would return. Thats the first i hear of someone doing roids and his balls remaiining small for so many years. Wtf. Did this have any effect on your mood/energy/strength/concentration mate??? My balls are 1/3 of size after finasteride but am scared shitless to take anything since my AReceptor has been messed up and any testosterone tampering supplement causes massive pains and further decrease in my balls
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