Men's Health Forum: This is a discussion on My PCT Journal to kickstart HPTA post HRT within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; Originally Posted by chap
no relapse, if anything I think I might be still improving, but I havent done any ...
no relapse, if anything I think I might be still improving, but I havent done any bloodtests yet to see what the various levels are doing. Libido isnt high, but functionality is great when I do use it, just never get that youthful urgency that I have been hoping for, but maybe that is part of being in my 40s, takes a minute or so to warm up and then sensation and quality are great.
Yeah... I'm 39 myself... and to be honest my libido wasn't that high for a long while despite a cycle when I was on one. I recall when I was natural 4 years ago, my libido has slowed down then compared to my 20's.. That's a fact of life. To be honest with you, I kind of perfer it this way anyway.. I recall how high libido in the past had this... nagging affect and often got me in trouble.
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Strong and lean, feel great...... I was just thinking today how good I feel and how much better it feels to be natural.
Yup... I was thinking lately how much I miss my old self in every aspect. I have competed naturally before and done well. I wish I could do that again. I will try my darn best!!
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I think you will need a week or so at least after your last hcg shot to be on the road to recovery, I found hcg to act quickly and drop off quickly too, so the protocal you are on might be just prolonging your recovery and might be making you feel like crap with the hormonal swings up and down..
yeah... My emotions are swinging for sure... I am following this protocol as outlined by Dr. Scally and so far the plan is going well I believe. Today; I know the HCG is working which is a positive sign for me. I have often thought that my testes are gone beyond repair. But, today's morning has told me differently. Read my update below.
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I felt pretty good on every day hcg shots, but once I stopped I started to feel pretty bad very soon after my last shot, a few days at the most. Being completely off hcg and on the heavy serms, I recalll feeling noticeably muh better within 5 days.
So, my day is coming still?? I am hoping that after 15 days of being on Clomid and Nolvadex, my transition away from the HCG will be much easier... We'll see about that!!
Chap... Thank you for following my thread and giving me some encouragement. I need all help I can get now!!
Well..... This morning was very unexpected. Upon waking I had a semi AM wood that was easily brought up to a full erection. This was surprising considering that on day 3, I've had the opposite contrast. Upon thinking of the reasons for this, it was very apparent that my shots of 2500iu of HCG are doing the trick. My testes have been full and solid. This made me happy because it means that my testes are still capable of producing test on their own. During the past years, I have often thought they were gone beyond repair. Thank God for this AM experience..
I'm still on my course... Been taking my Clomid at 7:30am and 7:30pm.. My Novladex finally showed up and I'm taking 20mg at 11pm daily.
Semen is especially snow white color today, which is different from usual. I am not sure why this is. For a second, I thought Clomid was doing a trick on my vision. lol...
Now it's about 4pm.. No libido.... But, my energy is good, and I feel alright. No depression nor anxiety existing.
My workout yesteday (day3) was okay.. But, I am definitely not as strong as I was on HRT.. But, that's expected at this time.
Morning...
Felt good upon rise; with a semi AM wood just like day4.. did not test it however. Libido is still
nil. After some caffiene, I started reading the boards etc... Some of the stuff I read reminded me
with how I felt while on HRT... suddendly started having that old pop quiz feeling again mixed with
mild desperation. I guess in the back in my mind I feel I'm heading in an unknown road which is
making me nervous... laid back down in bed... closed my eyes... pop quiz feeling went away shortly.
Morning...
Felt good upon rise; with a semi AM wood just like day4.. did not test it however. Libido is still
nil. After some caffiene, I started reading the boards etc... Some of the stuff I read reminded me
with how I felt while on HRT... suddendly started having that old pop quiz feeling again mixed with
mild desperation. I guess in the back in my mind I feel I'm heading in an unknown road which is
making me nervous... laid back down in bed... closed my eyes... pop quiz feeling went away shortly.
Time to take my 50mg of clomid.
Next time try this it works dam good and when you can't sleep you can do this laying down to fall a sleep. I could stop a panic attack before it got started doing this. http://www.ucop.edu/humres/eap/relaxationrespone.html
Phil
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Next time try this it works dam good and when you can't sleep you can do this laying down to fall a sleep. I could stop a panic attack before it got started doing this. http://www.ucop.edu/humres/eap/relaxationrespone.html
Phil
Hmmm... That seems pretty interesting. I can imagine I'd have to practice it a few times to master it even though it sounds simple. Thank you for letting me know about this.
I guess this feeling come about when I start thinking of what's coming ahead. For instance, I'm scared about the fact when I'm done with HCG and I'm on my own; that I won't get in trouble hormonal wise if my pituitary has not come around yet to producing LH and FSH. Does anyone know how long it would take for the pituitary to respond to Clomid???
Hmmm... That seems pretty interesting. I can imagine I'd have to practice it a few times to master it even though it sounds simple. Thank you for letting me know about this.
I guess this feeling come about when I start thinking of what's coming ahead. For instance, I'm scared about the fact when I'm done with HCG and I'm on my own; that I won't get in trouble hormonal wise if my pituitary has not come around yet to producing LH and FSH. Does anyone know how long it would take for the pituitary to respond to Clomid???
Yes practice this morning after you first get up and say before dinner you will get so good at it you can do in in the john at work hell I have done it on a train. If you want to know what it does for you mind and body get the fast read book it is a old book but a dam good read. I have found that once we have one panick attack just the thought can bring on the feeling of a attack and this stops the feeling dead in it's tracks. Plus if you have Adrenal problems this give them a big rest.
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Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.
Phil
Yes practice this morning after you first get up and say before dinner you will get so good at it you can do in in the john at work hell I have done it on a train. If you want to know what it does for you mind and body get the fast read book it is a old book but a dam good read. I have found that once we have one panick attack just the thought can bring on the feeling of a attack and this stops the feeling dead in it's tracks. Plus if you have Adrenal problems this give them a big rest.
Wow... I have just found the whole book on line and started reading it.. It seems very interesting... I will read most of it and will give the technique a try for sure.. Once again; I appreciate your recommendation... I need all the help I can get.. lol..
Wow... I have just found the whole book on line and started reading it.. It seems very interesting... I will read most of it and will give the technique a try for sure.. Once again; I appreciate your recommendation... I need all the help I can get.. lol..
Can you give me a link to the whole book I did not know it was on line.
Phil
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Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.
Phil
Can you give me a link to the whole book I did not know it was on line.
Phil
My mistake... I spoke too soon... I thought the book I found was it.. After reading more and then going back to the front cover, it turned out to be the wrong book ----> http://books.google.com/books?vid=IS...BC3YFbkjifaCuA
I head to Barnes @ Noble very often. I'll check it out next time I'm there.. Sorry for the mix up!!
My mistake... I spoke too soon... I thought the book I found was it.. After reading more and then going back to the front cover, it turned out to be the wrong book ----> http://books.google.com/books?vid=IS...BC3YFbkjifaCuA
I head to Barnes @ Noble very often. I'll check it out next time I'm there.. Sorry for the mix up!!
Thats all right but I need to get a new copy everytime I turn around I let someone read it and never get it back.
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Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.
Phil
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