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Ive just started a trt plan with testogel. i take it once in the morning everyday. as ...
Ive just started a trt plan with testogel. i take it once in the morning everyday. as early as the 2nd day i feelt my leg going numb. Its like uve sat on it for awhile and dont want to wake up. Its not completely asleep just feels abit slow.. Also my head feels abit sluggish and slow. i can think just fine but it feels heavy. When waking up in the morning this is most noticable. Also ive pins and needles in my skin now 2 weeks in to trt, not all the time but ive havent had that b4. Mostly its in the chest area but not so much the nipples as the higher chest and to the sides almost in the armpits. This still has me worried about gyno. Energy levels dont seem to have improved either wich was my biggest hope for trt. 1 good thing tho is my erections are much better than b4 but libido still not alot better overall, however i feel like it comes in form of bombs, and dont have to be releated to something sexually. Im not on any anti estrogen so far and doc told me he dident want to give me this as he said its just making things to complexed and he felt i wasent so bad to start of with.
Total T 12 (10-30)
bio T subclinical cant remember the exact number but of the scale by a mark.
lh fsh kinda low and prolactin kinda high but in range.
I feel like sometimes my T during the day is too high and then when waking up the next day its 2 low but as i cant get tested for anything untill 3-4 more weeks im only speculating. Could one take half the dose in the morning and half in the evening ?
So how long does (did it´take for u)it take for energy levels to boost? libido?
Also pins and needles is this the onset of gyno u think?
Could my sleepy head and leg be due to too high T ?
The reason im so sensitive to changes is that im on trt because i had a bad reaction 2 propecia. So now adays im just very cautious about any treatment i try. But i do feel i have to try something i cant stay in the shape i am in.
Ive just started a trt plan with testogel. i take it once in the morning everyday. as early as the 2nd day i feelt my leg going numb. Its like uve sat on it for awhile and dont want to wake up. Its not completely asleep just feels abit slow.. Also my head feels abit sluggish and slow. i can think just fine but it feels heavy. When waking up in the morning this is most noticable. Also ive pins and needles in my skin now 2 weeks in to trt, not all the time but ive havent had that b4. Mostly its in the chest area but not so much the nipples as the higher chest and to the sides almost in the armpits. This still has me worried about gyno. Energy levels dont seem to have improved either wich was my biggest hope for trt. 1 good thing tho is my erections are much better than b4 but libido still not alot better overall, however i feel like it comes in form of bombs, and dont have to be releated to something sexually. Im not on any anti estrogen so far and doc told me he dident want to give me this as he said its just making things to complexed and he felt i wasent so bad to start of with.
Total T 12 (10-30)
bio T subclinical cant remember the exact number but of the scale by a mark.
lh fsh kinda low and prolactin kinda high but in range.
I feel like sometimes my T during the day is too high and then when waking up the next day its 2 low but as i cant get tested for anything untill 3-4 more weeks im only speculating. Could one take half the dose in the morning and half in the evening ?
So how long does (did it´take for u)it take for energy levels to boost? libido?
Also pins and needles is this the onset of gyno u think?
Could my sleepy head and leg be due to too high T ?
The reason im so sensitive to changes is that im on trt because i had a bad reaction 2 propecia. So now adays im just very cautious about any treatment i try. But i do feel i have to try something i cant stay in the shape i am in.
Any input appreciated.
Try to be more specific.
1. Post your complete blood test, all you did, post ranges, name of lab that did it.
2. You may have adrenals or thyroid problem, have you checked them
3. how much testogel are you using? Yes you could split the daily dose but it is wasted effort, you will not buy anything by doing that
4. estrogen management is more difficult than getting T levels right, requires frequent testing
5. propecia, if you are sensitive that may be a bad news all in itself, watch your DHT levels
6. one of you major problems may be prolactin, it should be close to 3 (three), that lab range is too generous
7. If you want you may blood test similarly as I do:
Attachment on the post #1, important to do it at Quest, blood drawn at Quest. http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-...tml#post827550
Try to be more specific.
1. Post your complete blood test, all you did, post ranges, name of lab that did it.
2. You may have adrenals or thyroid problem, have you checked them
3. how much testogel are you using? Yes you could split the daily dose but it is wasted effort, you will not buy anything by doing that
4. estrogen management is more difficult than getting T levels right, requires frequent testing
5. propecia, if you are sensitive that may be a bad news all in itself, watch your DHT levels
6. one of you major problems may be prolactin, it should be close to 3 (three), that lab range is too generous
7. If you want you may blood test similarly as I do:
Attachment on the post #1, important to do it at Quest, blood drawn at Quest. http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-...tml#post827550
1,
s-prolactin 7.8 (3-13)
s-fsh 3.3 (1.0-12.5)
s-lh 2.1 A (1.2-9.6)
s-östradiol <150 (unsensitive e2 test i guess have to redo this one) also no lab ref.
s-dheas 9.5 B (4.3-12)
s-shbg 40 (20-50)
s-testosterone 12 (10-30
s-testosterone bioactive 5.2 (6.3-16)
tsh 1.0 (0.1-4.8)
these tests were done at a hospital lab in sweden.
2. yes i tested thyroid function as per tsh, doc said that was all required :/
3. using 50 mg test / day
4. Can u do all tests by yrself with a private lab? if so is this expensive?
5. My propecia reaction was loss of libido and therefor loss of qualty erections. I also crashed after quitting propecia and took me a year to recover to the point of today. but recovery seem to have halted here at 80% with the above lab values drawn only a month ago.
Docs dont test DHT in sweden they just prescribe meds that lower it (sense the anger)
6. Hmm how to get prolactin down?
Also still wondering about what results to expect after 2 weeks on the gel. is it too soon to say anything? and is there anything i can buy to lower e2 without a prescription so i can go get it right away. ( worried about manboobs but dont wanna quit test just yet.) Could pins and needles be a sign of somethingelse than gyno? its no pain or anything. And what u think about the little numbness in the leg?
s-prolactin 7.8 (3-13)
s-fsh 3.3 (1.0-12.5)
s-lh 2.1 A (1.2-9.6)
s-östradiol <150 (unsensitive e2 test i guess have to redo this one) also no lab ref.
s-dheas 9.5 B (4.3-12) s-shbg 40 (20-50)
s-testosterone 12 (10-30
s-testosterone bioactive 5.2 (6.3-16)
tsh 1.0 (0.1-4.8)
these tests were done at a hospital lab in sweden.
2. yes i tested thyroid function as per tsh, doc said that was all required :/
3. using 50 mg test / day
4. Can u do all tests by yrself with a private lab? if so is this expensive?
5. My propecia reaction was loss of libido and therefor loss of qualty erections. I also crashed after quitting propecia and took me a year to recover to the point of today. but recovery seem to have halted here at 80% with the above lab values drawn only a month ago. Docs dont test DHT in sweden they just prescribe meds that lower it (sense the anger)
6. Hmm how to get prolactin down?
Also still wondering about what results to expect after 2 weeks on the gel. is it too soon to say anything? and is there anything i can buy to lower e2 without a prescription so i can go get it right away. ( worried about manboobs but dont wanna quit test just yet.) Could pins and needles be a sign of somethingelse than gyno? its no pain or anything. And what u think about the little numbness in the leg?
I am confused on what kind and how much Testosterone you do.
Most likely 5grams of 1% gel
often one have to go up to 10grams ( I had to use 10grams Androgel)
5grams may not be enough, specially that you will have to go high with TT because of your high SHBG.
You better get DHT testet. People who have propicia/proscar/finasteride problems, have those problems because they end up having very low DHT. Knowledge of DHT levels is specially important for them to be able to figure out conter active measures.
Get adrenals and thyroid tested, you TSH already indicate some problems there.
TSH confuses you and everybody around.
Try to forget you have done that test.
Erase it from your memory.
Okay fair enough since its not a good indicator.
However i guess it could be irrelevant if yr pituary isent working as it should. then the marker would be completely useless as it is not elevated even if required by low t3 t4 in the body. And i think my pituray is sleepy since low lh fsh yet i am real low on test etc.
However i guess it could be irrelevant if yr pituary isent working as it should. then the marker would be completely useless as it is not elevated even if required by low t3 t4 in the body. And i think my pituray is sleepy since low lh fsh yet i am real low on test etc.
if your thyroid is fucked up you will not absorb the tgel and need to goto injections
if after 2 weeks on 5 grams your test levels are not rising and you increase to 10 grams and still not rising stop wasiting time and goto T shots 50 mgs every 3rd day for 4 weeks retest check estrogen if all looks good after 4-6 weeks addin hcg 250 ius EOD and retest again to check e2 levels and at same time monitor thyroid/adrenals
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