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First time poster long time viewer.Quick story about myself.Did a 10 month cycle about 3-4 years ago and never recovered.Was taking test-e 250mg for about 8 months, testicals never shrunk in that time.I have done short cycles in the past before this 8 and 12 weekers and never had and shrinkage.Anyways then i did something stupid,i dropped the test i started taking d-bol and winny tabs with no test for the remaining 8 weeks.My testicals shrunk and 3 years later i never fully recovered nor did my balls return to there normal size.I did a pct of nolva and clom for about 2 months after that.Before i did any juice i was naturally big,had high amounts of natural test bigger that normal testicals, hairy legs and chest great sex drive ect.My recent bloodwook looks like this.Im 30 years old



Sex hormone binding globulin 25 13-71

Testosterone bioavailable 11.3 5-18

Testosterone 18.6 8.4-28.7

Free testosterone 410 200-800

Estradiol 142 less than 206 adult

Prolactin 6.3 2.0-15

LH 3.3 2.0-18.0

FSH 2.3 2.0-18.0

TSH 1.57 0.30-5.50

So after giving myself plenty of time to recover with no success i deciding to give hcg a try with clom and nolv after.I took my first shot of hcg 1500iu about 24 hours ago i also took .5mg of arimidex.Just wondering if that is enough adex or too much.After internet research this seems to be a good amount but wondering if there is any opinions on that i just said?I plan on taking 1500 iu every 2 and half days switching from 9am to 9 pm so its 2 and a half days intill the 6 amps i have are used up.
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Forgot to add i plan on taking .5mg Arimidex everyday.
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Hi there!

I have just about the same problem as you.

Please update you're progress..

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Forgot to add i plan on taking .5mg Arimidex everyday.
Way too much!! You are still in range on E2 (be it on the high) end, but .5 mg a week might even be too much. You don't want to tank your e2 (if you haven't already).

1mg a week is the normal dose for someone doing 2ml test a week for trt.

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Way too much!! You are still in range on E2 (be it on the high) end, but .5 mg a week might even be too much. You don't want to tank your e2 (if you haven't already).

1mg a week is the normal dose for someone doing 2ml test a week for trt.
Why is Arimidex even necessary if you're taking HCG for your boys?
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Hi Btwix

did you have any improvement yet? I am just like you. I am sure there are hundreds other like us just suffereing silently.Please let me know.
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Why the Adex? that is an inhibitor or estrogen production and best used on cycle to control estrogen levels without "blocking". I do not think that Adex is known for its ability to restart HPTA.?? 8 months is a long time without a signal to the boys. Your primary problem is obviously the LH and FSH too low. No signal is being sent so they will be small. Next time run the HCG throughout the cycle. For now, Go ahead and see how they respond the the HCG. I would suggest trying 2500 ius on a monday, and then another 2500 ius on that friday same week if no response. Still no reponse do 1000ius mon, wed, and fri. Repeat up to two more weeks. You should def repond in that time. A RESPONSE will be noted by your balls blowing up and feeling like oranges. It feels like an awsome case of blue balls (great). Once you start repsonding simmer down to 500ius mon, wed, and fri for next 2 months. At these amounts as listed there is no risk of leydig desensitization and they are good doses to get going. Once you have responded to the HCG for a month, add clomid 50mgs day for next month ( while still supping HCG). Then discontinue the clomid and HCG. Continue on PCT with 20mgs Nolva for 6 more weeks. Hopefully this will work for you. I dont think you need to put any Adex as at this time you do not want to Inhibit natural productions of any kind. After all, it is estrogen that signals the HPTA to start producing testosterone... Adex is simply best for on cycle Estradial control, and emergency shut down of estrogen production in case of a run-away case of bitch tit that a Nolva protocal is even unable to stop... READ...

Also, are you even sure that your prior PCT pharms were legit?? Also with my above protocal, you should probably fun the clomid and 100mgs/day for the first two weeks if you can handle it..
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