New Labs are back.

[pmgamer18]

I am still on 70mgs of Depo T shots 3 times a day and doing 350 IU's of HCG the 2 dasy each in between my T shots. My labs came in last week, I was ticked off they ordered the wrong ones. I asked for.
• Total Testosterone
• Bioavailable Testosterone
• Free Testosterone
They did Total T it was 671 and Quest range is 241 to 827 ng/dl but my last test was 530 and the range is diff. 250 to 1100 ng/dl same lab WTF.

My Bioavailable T was not done and on my last test is was on the low side at 199 range 110 to 575 ng/dl.

My Free T came back high at 226 range 34 to 194 pg/ml
last test diff. range again it was 108 range 46 to 224 pg/ml.

I think this test should have been Bioavailable T they called it Testosterone Free and weakly bound. It was 405 range 84 to 402 ng/dl.
So I have no Idea WTF happened when I went up on my dose. I ask Stevens why they ran this shit and he said his lab tech must have ordered the wrong tests. But I went and talked to her and she told me he told her to run them. So who do you believe I am going to get the dam lab numbers and tell her to run them and if he changes it to let know before blood is drawn.

My E2 is still to dam low and now I feel having low Aldosterone Renin levels was the reasion my E2 was always so dam high. Now I am off Arimidex trying to get my levels back up. I feel going on the Florinef fixed my E2 problems. I was off Arimidex for 5 days and wood started coming back so I took a .5 mgs pill and tanked again. So now it's been 9 days off it and no wood. I don't know if this is good or bacd because now in the last 2 morning I was feeling panic and this only happens when E2 is to high.

My Free T4 is still very low .9 range .8 to 1.8 ng/dl
My Free T3 is up some 382 range 230 to 420 pg/dl

This is on 3 grains of Armour I asked my Dr. about adding in a low dose of 25mcg Synthroyd he said no.

I have very oily skin on my face it even gets into my eyes so I wipe my face with a baby wipe about every 2 hrs.

I feel dam good on the Florinef
I am back at the Old Persons Club here in Rochester working out in there gym again. If feels dam good to work out 90 mins and not need to recover the rest of the day or two. I now can go out and work in the yard in the heat and don't feel I am going to pass out. So the Florinef works and was the big problem with my sweating allday and feeling over heated.

Did you read guys ever read this link low Aldosterone is near the bottom of it a dam good read.
http://www.tuberose.com/Adrenal_Glands.html

[pmgamer18]

I made an error on my post I do shots every 3 days.

[fbcoach]

Phil,
Glad to see you're feeling good and exercising again. I have kept on most of your posts, and it is GREAT that you took responsibility for your health in your own hands. I also thank you for all your doing to help others.
I am anxiously waiting my for my lab tests. They are to be e-mailed this wednesday. I hope you don';t mind if I ask for your input over a STTM. Anyway, just wanted to wish you continued success in your journey to ultimate wellness

[pmgamer18]

I am sure this new med lowed my high estradiol levels read this relply I got.
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I feel going on the Florinef fixed my Estradiol leves problems.

Sounds to me like you get some glucocorticoid properties from the FLorinef, low cortisol causes high estrogen, and anything that raises cortisol will lower estrogen as well. Estrogen dominance is a real problem in PETS these days! Believe it or not, and guess what they do for them? Medrol & thyroid. They use the estrogen levels as a way to monitor the cortiosl level in the body. THAT is how accurate it is! Read the book Pets At Risk, I learned more about adrenals from this vet htan the 20 other doctors books I have read about them!

[zkt]

90 minute workout eh ? That aint bad at all. The ref range thing- labs recalculate their ref ramges every so often. Just a statistical thing. I guess thats what you were talking about.

[Kingneptune40]

PmGamer18........................Do you suspect some "funny stuff" with your lab work at Quest???? I have a buddy who had some very odd results from Quest last month and he is questioning some of their techniques.........Is it common to have "lab error" or is that rare???? Just curious on your opinion............Peace

[pmgamer18]

I stoped using Quest about 5 yrs. ago because of this probelm my Dr. would call them and they had all kinds or resions not enough blood and so on. I went back to them so when we post my labs the ranges are the same as you guys and I was having to send my E2 test to them anyway. JanSz said he has a problem with them off and on.

It's not hard to workout 90 mins. at the Old Persons Club they have 21 machines in the weight room no free weights. But we have some 70 yr. olds working out so this is safe. My wife had her knee replaced this spring and she needs to work her knee. So she goes with me and trys to use all the machines. The machines are HUR and you use a card on each machine and it sets your load, sets and reps. I start on the Precor Elliptical Crosstrainer for a 15 min warm up then go into the weight room I do 3 sets of 10 reps on each machine.

This link shows what the machines look like.
http://www.hur.fi/en/index.asp?menu=...d_fitness_arms

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by pmgamer18

I am sure this new med lowed my high estradiol levels read this relply I got.
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject:

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I feel going on the Florinef fixed my Estradiol leves problems.

Sounds to me like you get some glucocorticoid properties from the FLorinef, low cortisol causes high estrogen, and anything that raises cortisol will lower estrogen as well. Estrogen dominance is a real problem in PETS these days! Believe it or not, and guess what they do for them? Medrol & thyroid. They use the estrogen levels as a way to monitor the cortiosl level in the body. THAT is how accurate it is! Read the book Pets At Risk, I learned more about adrenals from this vet htan the 20 other doctors books I have read about them!

Interesting idea.
Please post more on estrogen/cortisol connection.
Or how to apply it in our daily practice.

Not on this topic, Hemoglobin A1c and average glucose.
I learned that there is straight relationship plus (unfortunately) my glucose level is higher than I thought it is.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/865604-post23.html