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Hi,
I am coming to the culmination of an androgen cycle (2 weeks of 4ad/1ad, followed by 3 weeks of nolvadex, followed by 3 weeks of superdrol/4ad/1ad). I will be using nolvadex for pct dosed at 25 mgs a day for approx. 5 weeks.

I don't want to bridge into another cycle, in fact, from being on this site, I don't ever want to do another androgen again, as it seems to negatively affect one's sex drive/sensation/hormonal levels permantely. So, I have plenty of nolvadex and also have a bottle and a half of diesel test (which is a natural test booster with trib/longfolia/dim/horny goat weed, etc.) Would it be best to take this natty test booster right of the bat and then taper off of it while I am tapering of nolvadex? Remember, my goal is to bring back natural levels of test and live supp/steroid free for a while.

Take into account these points:
Supposedly nolva increases the sensitivity of gnrh in the pituitary, yet can cause an increase in shbg. Diesel Test supposedly increases natural test, increases seminal volume, and decreases bad estrogen, and I think lowers shgb. I am also going to pick up some ZMA and possibly some resverterol from biotest.

Thanks in advance guys
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Old 12-05-2006, 07:09 PM
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Hi,
I am coming to the culmination of an androgen cycle (2 weeks of 4ad/1ad, followed by 3 weeks of nolvadex, followed by 3 weeks of superdrol/4ad/1ad). I will be using nolvadex for pct dosed at 25 mgs a day for approx. 5 weeks.

I don't want to bridge into another cycle, in fact, from being on this site, I don't ever want to do another androgen again, as it seems to negatively affect one's sex drive/sensation/hormonal levels permantely. So, I have plenty of nolvadex and also have a bottle and a half of diesel test (which is a natural test booster with trib/longfolia/dim/horny goat weed, etc.) Would it be best to take this natty test booster right of the bat and then taper off of it while I am tapering of nolvadex? Remember, my goal is to bring back natural levels of test and live supp/steroid free for a while.

Take into account these points:
Supposedly nolva increases the sensitivity of gnrh in the pituitary, yet can cause an increase in shbg. Diesel Test supposedly increases natural test, increases seminal volume, and decreases bad estrogen, and I think lowers shgb. I am also going to pick up some ZMA and possibly some resverterol from biotest.

Thanks in advance guys
Don't count for your nat T levels on T boosters,only for libido.
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your concerns over shbg are overly exacerbated. I have tracked the increase in my own bloodwork, and I can tell you that it is minimal at best, and seriously compensated for via the increase in LH, test, etc.

your natural boosters are going to be like shooting a roman candle into a burining building. You will see little to no difference over what the nolva is already doing. If you want to get any value from them, use them when you are nice and recoverd... and bored.
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