Oh my God

[Glaim]

I was waiting for some blood work to come back (my seventh time having testosterone measured), and after this, my endo told me he would start me on TRT. The nurse there called and left me a message saying that everything came back normal and there is no need to start TRT at this time.

Let me clarify, the previous SIX times it ranged from 50-150. I called them back to get the exact numbers and she told me that they can't reveal that information because the doctor isn't present. I'm assuming it's most likely low to mid 200s.

[wrathe]

what do you think caused those previous readings?

[BigRagu]

they always tell me that also.......call them up and tell them u already seen the doctor and got the results but u want to keep them for your record........ since they will think the doctor went over them with u already they will give them to u........ they tried pulling that on me but i made up some bs .............

[Glaim]

the previous readings weren't inaccurate. Testosterone levels fluctuate enormously throughout the day. The doctor is just a retard.

[toc67guru]

i would second your diagnosis on the doctor.

[Kroms_laugh]

Retarded?

I concur.

That's what my Endo told me... up until I brought my wife in with me. She did the talking that time. Now I'm on TRT.

[Mmartin]

Time for a new doctor!

[SWALE]

Would your wife be willing to travel around, helping other guys out?

Heck, I could use her around here.

[Glaim]

No kiddin'. I emailed Dr. Mark Gordon about possibly seeing him....but I don't know if I can afford it. This is so frustrating...I wouldn't even mind the 2+ hour drive to go see him.


EDIT: I just checked my email and he said that he doesn't employ the use of testosterone? But rather HCG? I was told he followed SWALE's protocol? Anyone know of a good doctor in southern california that does follow SWALE's protocol?

Originally Posted by SWALE

Would your wife be willing to travel around, helping other guys out?

Heck, I could use her around here.

[Kroms_laugh]

Originally Posted by SWALE

Would your wife be willing to travel around, helping other guys out?

Heck, I could use her around here.

lol... I'll through the idea her way

I think the effect she had was this; the doc can take your vitality lightly when he sees a guy who works out a lot complaining of low test levels, but when he looks the woman who it affects the most right in the face, there are not as many exits.

[mranak]

Originally Posted by Glaim

Let me clarify, the previous SIX times it ranged from 50-150.

Get a copy of those six lab reports and so to another doctor.

[Glaim]

Okay, my endo left a message on my voice mail. He told me that my testosterone level came back at 455. How is that possible? I've never broken 160 in every previous test and still have all the same symptoms. Not that i necessarily want to go onto HRT, but I don't see how this can be possible?

[BigRagu]

Originally Posted by Glaim

Okay, my endo left a message on my voice mail. He told me that my testosterone level came back at 455. How is that possible? I've never broken 160 in every previous test and still have all the same symptoms. Not that i necessarily want to go onto HRT, but I don't see how this can be possible?

were u on a diet of some sort or on a low fat diet....... because that can lower test .............. other then that beats me.......maybe the time of the day u were tested made a difference...............

[Glaim]

No...diet is the same. He did give me some sort of injection right before hand. He didn't specify what it was...only that it was supposed to stimulate the adrenals. Maybe SWALE might be able to chime in on exactly what this was and its purpose as well as if this could have effected my bloodwork...last I checked, the adrenals weren't responsible for a large portion of testosterone production.

[SWALE]

1). There are natural variations in sex hormone production throughout the day.

2). The Total Testosterone assay is incredibly unreliable.