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I have a very strange problem, and have spent the last 6 months of my life trying to ...
Hello forum,
I have a very strange problem, and have spent the last 6 months of my life trying to figure out whats gone wrong. I'll try to put it out as fast and complete as I can. I am 24, around 8% bodyfat, weigh 160lb/ 5/10'' lift weights regularly, and am in very physical condition. I have never done steroids or used any strange supplements before. Before "the problem" started, I had a RAGING sex drive and never had an ED problem in my life. I was like a normal person for me age, I guess. I couldn't get enough sex, and slight fantasies about girls would turn me on in a flash. Around 6 months ago, I masturbated for a long session, and the next day I feel a little off, but think nothing of it. As the days go by, I see my penis has shrunk down some, sort of the look when you get out of a pool, and and isnt responsive/ and I don't have any SEX DRIVE ever. I lost all spontanous/psychogenic erectile ability. I wait about 1.5 months and see a urologist, he looks at me, says heres some Cialis, it should get better with time. I take this regularly, and as the months goes on, my libido stays very low, with one temporary peak that lasted about 2 days. I felt horny and normal again, and my penile skin felt sensitive. I masturbated like normal, and it felt great. That peak was about 2 months ago.
As soon as it came, it was gone again, and I am left with no libido, and minimal penile sensitivity, and a penis that doesn't look or feel the same anymore. I have a ton of new visible veins in the penis, one that seems varicose, that I am 100% positive were never visible before "the problem". I have also lost flaccid girth, but im hoping its reversible somehow.
Here is the final kicker, that maybe will help some of you guys with hormone experience give me some possibilities. I got some bloodwork, and my testosterone free and total is high. Here is the results of everything.
Testosterone Free and Total, LC/MS/MS Range
Total Testosterone 1075 250-1100 ng/dL
Free Testosterone % 1.88 1.10-2.80%
Free Testosterone 202.1 H 35.0-155.0 pg/mL
Thyroid
T3 Uptake 36H 22-35%
T4 Total 7.1 4.5 - 12.5 mcg/dL
Free T4 index (T7) 2.6 1.4-3.8
TSH 2.84 .40 - 5.50 mIU/L
The thyroid seems pretty normal, but my total testosterone is high and my free testosterone is over range. Yet, I have no desire for sex, the skin on my penis feels like the skin on my arm. I can get an erection with manual stimulation, but i'm not aroused at all, even by porn, so it doesn't feel that pleasurable and it doesn't last. Its so bizarre to be able to look at porn, and what once was extremely erotic, just seem like watching something only minimally arousing. Orgasm doesn't feel anywhere as pleasurable either. What should I do from here? Does this sound like too much E2 or too little E2, or maybe too much prolactin? I really want to get my life back to normal, and I can't think of anything else this could be. Aside from this issue, I have no depression issues, and am staying positive right now, cause I know I can beat this. If you rule out depression, and diabetes, what else could cause this. Also, I do wakeup with morning wood on occasion, but when I do, I sometimes don't even realize it, cause there is very little sensation from downstairs, and its never stays up for long after waking, like it used to. That tickly electric sensation has been gone for about 5.5 months. I sincerely appreciate everyones time!
Hello forum,
I have a very strange problem, and have spent the last 6 months of my life trying to figure out whats gone wrong. I'll try to put it out as fast and complete as I can. I am 24, around 8% bodyfat, weigh 160lb/ 5/10'' lift weights regularly, and am in very physical condition. I have never done steroids or used any strange supplements before. Before "the problem" started, I had a RAGING sex drive and never had an ED problem in my life. I was like a normal person for me age, I guess. I couldn't get enough sex, and slight fantasies about girls would turn me on in a flash. Around 6 months ago, I masturbated for a long session, and the next day I feel a little off, but think nothing of it. As the days go by, I see my penis has shrunk down some, sort of the look when you get out of a pool, and and isnt responsive/ and I don't have any SEX DRIVE ever. I lost all spontanous/psychogenic erectile ability. I wait about 1.5 months and see a urologist, he looks at me, says heres some Cialis, it should get better with time. I take this regularly, and as the months goes on, my libido stays very low, with one temporary peak that lasted about 2 days. I felt horny and normal again, and my penile skin felt sensitive. I masturbated like normal, and it felt great. That peak was about 2 months ago.
As soon as it came, it was gone again, and I am left with no libido, and minimal penile sensitivity, and a penis that doesn't look or feel the same anymore. I have a ton of new visible veins in the penis, one that seems varicose, that I am 100% positive were never visible before "the problem". I have also lost flaccid girth, but im hoping its reversible somehow.
Here is the final kicker, that maybe will help some of you guys with hormone experience give me some possibilities. I got some bloodwork, and my testosterone free and total is high. Here is the results of everything.
Testosterone Free and Total, LC/MS/MS Range
Total Testosterone 1075 250-1100 ng/dL
Free Testosterone % 1.88 1.10-2.80%
Free Testosterone 202.1 H 35.0-155.0 pg/mL
Thyroid
T3 Uptake 36H 22-35%
T4 Total 7.1 4.5 - 12.5 mcg/dL
Free T4 index (T7) 2.6 1.4-3.8
TSH 2.84 .40 - 5.50 mIU/L
The thyroid seems pretty normal, but my total testosterone is high and my free testosterone is over range. Yet, I have no desire for sex, the skin on my penis feels like the skin on my arm. I can get an erection with manual stimulation, but i'm not aroused at all, even by porn, so it doesn't feel that pleasurable and it doesn't last. Its so bizarre to be able to look at porn, and what once was extremely erotic, just seem like watching something only minimally arousing. Orgasm doesn't feel anywhere as pleasurable either. What should I do from here? Does this sound like too much E2 or too little E2, or maybe too much prolactin? I really want to get my life back to normal, and I can't think of anything else this could be. Aside from this issue, I have no depression issues, and am staying positive right now, cause I know I can beat this. If you rule out depression, and diabetes, what else could cause this. Also, I do wakeup with morning wood on occasion, but when I do, I sometimes don't even realize it, cause there is very little sensation from downstairs, and its never stays up for long after waking, like it used to. That tickly electric sensation has been gone for about 5.5 months. I sincerely appreciate everyones time!
"Dude I shit you not! Since taking these damn steriods, I've lost the 9.5" between my legs! A damn 7" now! Can't get my penis to stay hard at all! By the time I'm through with AAS my penis will be about 4"'long. SHIT!" I'm not really worried about it, except when I meet a chick, even with the sex aids, soft rod! Well, going to mash some grapes, sing some hymns, do some chanting, and read The Bible, until this hell is over!."
Well your testosterone is certainly not the cause.. Are you experiencing any other symptoms, like fatigue etc. Having a TSH over 2 is suspect and may indicate thyriod problems.
Well your testosterone is certainly not the cause.. Are you experiencing any other symptoms, like fatigue etc. Having a TSH over 2 is suspect and may indicate thyriod problems.
Well your test is good.
Do these test at Quest if possible.
My first guess would be as mentioned above would be a thyroid problem. Your TSH is high and your total T4 is also low. Get the other tests JanSz listed @ Quest. (Total T3, Total T4, Free T4, Free T3, TSH) Then you will know for sure. I can tell you this...my TSH and total T4 were almost exactly what yours are before I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. After looking at Free T3 & Free T4 it turns out I was only producing a little more half the thyroid hormone my body actually needs. I also can relate to those symptoms big time...Even with my total T in the mid 600's I felt almost ZERO libido. Nothing will kill you sex life quicker than hypothyroidism! I am getting better slowly but surely now that I am being treated for this.
Recless, did you suffer the shrinkage problem too? It seems a common finding on these boards. How are thing's now libido/ED wise? What protocol are you doing?
Hey Guys,
Thanks for the replies so far. I will definately try to get some more tests from the doctors, and hope I can diagnose this problem. Its just hard pushing these mechanical doctors around, who look at the results, and say, "well you aren't out of range on anything here". I have a feeling it might be hypothyroidism as well. Before it happened, I was always really depressed, but never bothered my libido or sex drive. I was ultra horny. But I would always feel the best around 3am, and I would sleep till around 2pm everyday, getting at least 10 hours, and still feel exhausted. No doctor every diagnosed me, but I felt like it was either that or chronic fatigue. Is there anything I can do naturally in the mean time if it is hypothyroidism to help it heal naturally, or is this a RX only battle?
I just read about a guy here that has been sick for yrs and just found out what was wrong. You show sines of his problem. High T levels and possable Thyroid problems.
Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia http://www.aafp.org/afp/990301ap/1190.html
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