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I was reading over here as i am nearing the end of my first and extended use of testosterone cyp. I am wondering if anyone can tell me what the percentage of people over here in the trt area former steroid users.??? Just wondering cause i would like to know if i am increasing my chances for future problems by using?? So what is the breakdown?? Anyone can please offer a suggested guess..
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I agree that Finasteride probably fucked me up good, but I don't think that would explain low thyroid. Do you know of any doctors that specialize in that area?
Dr Crisler, Dr Shippen and Dr Marinaco have all had experience with it though no set treatment has been set for everyone as in, its still a bit hit and miss by the sounds of it. No doctor in the world i believe can say they know what it does to you.
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I agree that Finasteride probably fucked me up good, but I don't think that would explain low thyroid. Do you know of any doctors that specialize in that area?
I would say that joejoe has probably always been a lower T guy, add in the fin and throw a nice vegan diet on top of it and BLAM, no more T
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Yeah what happened. I have similar symptoms to the guy who started this thread. I would like to know whether the problem was Adrenal, thyroid, high E2 or high progesterone. And in which order did he get the problem. What was the main cause?
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I fear, I will end up like a Ken doll before I receive a treatment that works.
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Default Re: Penile Atrophy, Zero Libido, Ejaculatory Anhedonia, Bloodtests Back

Pain...... i have the same problem great test results but down there it dosnt work right i find fenugreek dim make it work alot better DIM makes my penis work as well it seems balls hang when using dim and its a bit a fuller more sensation try using dim and fenugreek at the same time works pretty well for me but now im on iodral so it will be iodral and fenugreek...i have same problem almost no sensation lost size big time its almost nothing sack is asended before all this happen sack hung really low my penis always feels room temp or cold to the touch not hot like it used to back in the day...so im in your same boat good levels but yea dosnt show up down there.
Maybe we will both figure this out one day i know on fenu and dim with tmg it deffintly works alot better its like for me theres something not getting there...pm me if you want hopefully we can fix this...my problem is 10xbetter from a year ago but the flacid part i havnt figured out yet still kinda shrunken up.
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I just called Quest and got my DHT results. They don't seem to add any more insight into this condition. The results seem in range, and I from what i've read really high DHT or LOW dht isnt good for libido. It seems like the high E2 has to be what's causing this problem! Does anyone know from bloodtest experience if 48 E2 is high enough to completely kill libido and give severe ED? Maybe its different person to person, but im just wondering. Also what are the known physical conditions that cause high E2. I don't care how obscure the reference. I want to eliminate all possibilities.

Value Range
Dihydrotestosterone 53 25- 75 ng/dL
DHT free 4.81 1.00 - 6.20 pg/mL
DHT free % .83 % .62 - 1.10%

Estradiol, Free, LC/MS/MS still pending. Its frustrating for tests to take so long.

you can call quest on your own and get your results? can any one do that? I have the same issue with feeling nothing during orgasm, when I first started lexapro is changed for a few days but went right back to normal.
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All the readings are pretty well within the normal range and not likely responsible for the symptoms you describe. I dont think your problem is in your adrenal, gonadal or hepatic biochemistry. Consider your social relationships and your private thoughts and feeling about yourself and others. How do you feel about those?


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Hello Forum,
Thank you very much for providing the right direction to look for finding what is going wrong in my body. I had the recommended blood tests done from this post, done at Quest.
Penile Atrophy, Zero Libido/sensitivity, Help

Again, here are my main symptoms.
* Zero Libido/Sex Drive
* Bad Erectile Dysfunction even when using max doses of Cialis or Levitra
* Loss of Morning / Spontaneous / Nocturnal Erections
* Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, curving, numbness, wrinkled)
* Penis Feels "disconnected" from head or body

****Complete loss of pleasure during Orgasm, this is new during last month. I know oxytocin is created by the pituitary, so I'm wondering is something is damaged there? I literally have no sensation during sex/masturbation, a slight sensation at approach of orgasm, and then nothing when there used to be a massive euphoric rush and tingly sensation thoughout my body. This is worrying me the most now.
Here are the results: In Range Out of Range Refererence Range
Estrogens, Fractionated, LC/MS/MS
Estrone, LC/MS/MS 23 pg/ml
Reference Range: < OR = 68

ESTRADIOL, ULTRASENSITIVE 48 H pg/mL
Reference Range: < OR = 29

Estriold, Serem <0.10 ng/mL
Reference Range:
Adults: 0.2 or LESS

Hepatic Function Panel
Only listing things out of range:
ALBUMIN 5.2 H Range : 3.6 - 5.1 g/dL
AST 88 H Range: 10-40 U/L
ALT 81 H Range: 9 -60 U/L

New Testosterone Results, FREE BIO TOTAL LC/MS/MS Range:

Testosterone Total 1081 250-1100 ng/dL
Testosterone Free 127.8 46.0 - 224.0 pg/mL
Testosterone BioAva 301.7 110.0-575.0 ng/dL
SHBG 44 7-49 nmol/L
Albumin Serum 5.2 H 3.6-5.1 g/dL


Estrogens, Total Serum 116 pg/mL Reference Range 130 or LESS

Progesterone, LC/MS/MS .3 ng/mL Reference Range .3 or LESS

PREGNENOLONE 39 ng/dL Reference Range 10-200

Dihydrotestosterone FREE Serum: PENDING, will know tomorrow
ESTRADIOL, FREE, LC/MS/MS PENDING, will know tomorrow

CBC = everything within range

ALDOSTERONE 13 ng/dL

CORTISOL, TOTAL 26.9 mcg/dL H
Reference Range for 8AM (7-9AM) 4.0 to 22.0
Reference Range for 4PM (3-5PM) 3.0-17.0
(I took this bloodtest at 11am, after a stressful situation trying to get the doctor to order these tests)
Range
DHEA Sulfate 302 110-510 mcg/dL
FSH 1.4 L 1.6-8.0 mIU/mL
LH 3.9 1.5-9.3 mIU/mL
Prolactin 8.7 2.0 - 18.0 ng/mL
T-4, Free 1.3 0.8 - 1.8 ng/dL
TSH, 3rd Gen 2.23 0.40 - 4.50 mIU/L
PSA, total 0.8 < or = 4.0 ng/mL

T3, FREE 297 230- 420 pg/dL
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I know its a lot to look at, but I really appreciate anyone's help. I'll post the DHT and free estradiol tomorrow when I get it, but until then, please let me know what you think the most likely cause of these symptoms are. Urologists up to this point offer nothing but cialis, which barely works. Within the last month, the ejaculatory anhedonia is really scary! Is the low FSH with the high estradiol ultrasensitive enough to warrant an MRI for a brain tumor? How can I bring the Estradiol down naturally? Is my LH really "normal", and what causes FSH to be low? My old testosterone and thyroid results were done in June, so if you reference them, thats the date. Thanks again.
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I have alot of the same issues, I will discuss it tom in detail.
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