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Well I don't know about dropping all my HCG I do 400 IU's the 2 days each after my every 3 day T shot. If I drop all the HCG my levels will go down half and I will crash. I find it hard to believe just 10 mgs. of this will do all of this. Maybe it's to strong and a cream would be better.
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After more reading I think it could be that I am in the proccess of switching from Isocort to HC last week I dropped the 4 pills of Isocort = 10 mgs of cortisol and started on 10 mgs. of HC. On the chart of my temps my temps come up to 98.7 the avg for 4 checks a day. And was at this levels for the last 7 days. I think I felt hot because I had a lot of thyroid hormone dump into my cells. My BP and heart rate was up at this time and I think this was the problem not the Pregnenolone. I am still doing 25 mgs of DHEA 2x's a day and no Acne. I have so much on my plate it's hard to keep up with it all. I am going back on the Pregnenolone and give 2 weeks the feeling hot was not all that bad if the Preg. did this.
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Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.
Phil
After more reading I think it could be that I am in the proccess of switching from Isocort to HC last week I dropped the 4 pills of Isocort = 10 mgs of cortisol and started on 10 mgs. of HC. On the chart of my temps my temps come up to 98.7 the avg for 4 checks a day. And was at this levels for the last 7 days. I think I felt hot because I had a lot of thyroid hormone dump into my cells. My BP and heart rate was up at this time and I think this was the problem not the Pregnenolone. I am still doing 25 mgs of DHEA 2x's a day and no Acne. I have so much on my plate it's hard to keep up with it all. I am going back on the Pregnenolone and give 2 weeks the feeling hot was not all that bad if the Preg. did this.
I personally don't think the Preg did this. I take 50mg per day with no ill effects. If Preg would do this I would thing that so would a big fat juicy steak loaded with cholesterol. After all Preg is just one step down from cholesterol.
To me, any four ring, how ever many carbons it has from 17 on up to cholesterol has questions when taken orally. The liver is a strange place and who knows what goes on there... just being funny. But. I am a transdermal advocate so I am doing all of the precursors transdermal with the exception of DHEA. I take some of that orally because of several studies that show the break down products seem to produce a little hGH. Whether anecdotal or not, I do folic acid, melatonin, and some AA's ( now glutamine) that show they increase hGH levels. Even at my age I think the amino acids have some merit here... but I have no proof.
I personally don't think the Preg did this. I take 50mg per day with no ill effects. If Preg would do this I would thing that so would a big fat juicy steak loaded with cholesterol. After all Preg is just one step down from cholesterol.
It also makes sense (at least to me) to cut back on DHEA if you are supplementing with Preg.
Well I took it again put it under my tongue and it 5 min's I got this feeling of well being again all most like a high feeling lasted about an hour. Dam HCG, Isocort and now Preg. dose this to me.
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Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.
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It also makes sense (at least to me) to cut back on DHEA if you are supplementing with Preg.
Yep. Lower DHEA by the same amount of pregnenolone added. Might also need to lower HC. In my case, I was taking 25mg DHEA per day and 5mg HC. I had to lower HC, but didn't lower DHEA (at 25mg per day it was pretty low dose already).
You have to scroll down for the explanations of the different transdermal creams they have.
I found it some time ago when I was searching for transdermal DHEA as I was concerned about oral conversion to E. However, as I understand it supplementing a hypo state is different than supraphysiological dosing, so I've been at 25mg of DHEA orally for some time. Libido is a bit better, but still not where I'd like it. Wood is also a bit better, but not much
[quote=1cc]I also went through about a 2 week period of sweating a lot at night after starting pregnenolone. I then stopped the HC I was taking, because I felt it was too high and not necessary. The sweating went away after that first 2 weeks and then my libido went into overdrive.
1cc did you mean that you continued taking the pregnenelone, quit taking HC at two weeks and then the libido kicked in? Downregulating cortisol receptors is the only apparent idea that I have. What do you attribute the change to?
You have to scroll down for the explanations of the different transdermal creams they have.
I found it some time ago when I was searching for transdermal DHEA as I was concerned about oral conversion to E. However, as I understand it supplementing a hypo state is different than supraphysiological dosing, so I've been at 25mg of DHEA orally for some time.
The problem with the transdermal DHEA is that it does not convert to DHEA-s, and so can't be measured using labs.
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Libido is a bit better, but still not where I'd like it. Wood is also a bit better, but not much
Libido is a result of all hormones (and other factors) working together. Taking any one hormone may not correct the problem on it's own.
1cc did you mean that you continued taking the pregnenelone, quit taking HC at two weeks and then the libido kicked in? Downregulating cortisol receptors is the only apparent idea that I have. What do you attribute the change to?
Immediately upon starting the pregnenolone, I started sweating a lot at night during sleep. I lowered my HC after 2 weeks because it felt high. With hormones, as you know, sometimes you need to give your body some time to adjust and many times these type of symptoms go away on their own.
Pregnenolone converts to all the hormones as needed. Since I was already taking HC and DHEA, it is possible the body decided to convert mostly to progesterone or estrogen, which could have caused the sweating. Pregnenolone is the primary way used to increase progesterone by Dr. Philip Miller, author of "The Life Extension Revolution".
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