Problem with high test?

[eeso]

Umm why hasn't anyone told the original poster to drop his Testosterone dose a bit to bring him into range, which would also lower his e2?

[Nemesis RR]

Originally Posted by eeso

Umm why hasn't anyone told the original poster to drop his Testosterone dose a bit to bring him into range, which would also lower his e2?

I plan to as I don't want to push my luck with my health. I am just thinking if I should continue with every 3.5 days with a lower dosage or same dosage spread out over more days.

[eeso]

Stay on the same plan just lower the dosage.

You need to lower your Serum Test by about 40% to put you at the top of the range. 1299 - 40% = 779.

So if you drop your dosage by 40% it might match up fairly well, so 100mg - 40% = 60mg shots.

[BigAk]

Originally Posted by eeso

Umm why hasn't anyone told the original poster to drop his Testosterone dose a bit to bring him into range, which would also lower his e2?

eeso... I had been hollering to him to drop his test on the other board.... but no word to be heard... When people have made up their mind on something, usually high test triggers selective hearing as one of the side effects... lol

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[BigAk]

Originally Posted by Nemesis RR

I plan to as I don't want to push my luck with my health. I am just thinking if I should continue with every 3.5 days with a lower dosage or same dosage spread out over more days.

Just read this.... Good plan man...

[EIC]

Originally Posted by Recless

You are trying to compare TRT to NATURAL testosterone production. There is no comparison. This chart can be an accurate depiction of NATURAL production, not injecting yourself with esterfied testosterone twice a week. Natural production is VERY pulsitile so a single blood draw is of much less value than if one was on TRT. NATURAL production of testosterone tends to be highest in the morning and fall gradually through the day which is what this graph is showing. If there was a trendline drawn through the graph you would see it better.

That's a good point.

[EIC]

Originally Posted by BigAk

Maybe you should jump onto HRT then.... so you can feel like 18 again....

Don't want to feel 18, just want to feel 25 (not 60 like I do now).

[EIC]

Originally Posted by eeso

Stay on the same plan just lower the dosage.

You need to lower your Serum Test by about 40% to put you at the top of the range. 1299 - 40% = 779.

So if you drop your dosage by 40% it might match up fairly well, so 100mg - 40% = 60mg shots.

That is a huge drop. The reference range my lab uses is 400-1100, so he's not too far out of range depending on the RR you use. Maybe a more subtle reduction first to see how it impacts E2?

[eeso]

Drop to 90mg shots then, and then 80mg if it's going well. I was just going off the references range in your original post.

It sounds like the 3.5day dosing plan is working for you, so just drop the dose however you feel you should.

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by Nemesis RR

I have been on 200mg of test cyp. It is broken down to 100mg every tuesday night and saturday morning. The blood work listed was done on friday morning. I feel great and the classic symptons of andropause are gone. Before my levels were at 380 and I felt like an old man. What do you guys think? Is high test a problem? Should I worry about the estrogen.


Testosterone,Free+Weakly Bound
Testosterone, Serum 1299 H ng/dL 241 - 827
Testost., % Free+Weakly Bound 44.4% 9.0 - 46.0
> Testost., F+W Bound 576.8H ng/dL 40.0 - 250.0

Free testost. 42.7 pg/mL 8.7 - 25.1

Estradiol
> Estradiol 66 H pg/mL 0 - 53
Adult Male: <54[/b]
Bayer Centaur/ACS Methodology IGF-1
Insulin-Like Growth Factor I 220 ng/mL 109 - 284

Prolactin 18.8H ng/mL 2.1 - 17.7

Sex Horm Binding Glob,Serum 33 nmol/L 13 -71
Cortisol - AM 13.7 ug/dL 4.3 - 22.4

SHBG=33
table on my post #40
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-...april13-2.html
175 1199 34.3 300 x46.3 250

Lower your weekly dose to about 180mg/week
better yet do blood test at Quest, this test
Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS) Quest Diagnostics: Test Menu

and look at BAT
you want to be at the BAT~575
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Think of your slightly high prolactin
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Your estradiol test is wrong, you are high any how.
Use 0.4- 0.5 mL of Liquidex everytime you have a T shot (that is twice weekly.

Do thise test at Quest:
Estradiol, Free, LC/MS/MS (36169X)
you want to have
FreeE2 (0.45 - 0.6)
or E2~29
more accurate when using FreeE2, use Liquidex to adjust.