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Old 02-22-2007, 07:08 PM
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Kid, ignore my other post, I see your protocol here. I'm also a Shippen patient. if you mix 5 ml with the HCG powder and use 15 in the syringe it is 300 iu. 250 would be 12.5 on the syringe. The clomid is supposed to help your pituitary from shutting down in my opinion. If you feel worse it could be that you are responding too well to the HCG and your estradiol and T are too high now. If you are worried about this being true then do a blood test after 2 weeks or less instead of 3. Shippen is not only understanding if you modify the plan but encourages it based on how you feel. Youre in pretty good hands here I think so give this a try and don't worry so much.
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Hopefully everything gets back to normal. Good Luck
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Day 6 of 250iu hCG, just got back from the gym. I had an intense workout of chest and legs, not tired at all afterwards which would just be an understatement to how id feel after a workout before starting hcg. Strength is up a bit in certain exercises, the same in others. Overall I feel my mood is much better, I'm not always pissed off, and I have sustained energy throughout the day, no sudden surges or anything just very even sustained energy. Testicles might have gotten slighty slightly larger, but mine were already normal size to begin with so I don't expect much extra growth. Some days I really feel the tingling sensation in my balls throughout the day after an injection, others I don't feel it at all. I'm enjoying being on this, still however I haven't had one erection. Then again...I haven't tried to get an erection or had time to be lookiing at porn or messing around with a girl so we'll wait and see on that one.
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I get that exact same tingling sensation. When i was recovering natrually i would get this tingle most mornings. I think in me its a sure sign balls are alive and kicking. Since being on Clomid i get the occasional tingle but def not as much as when i was at my natural high level.

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Today will be my 3rd day on clomid 15mg.

protocol is as follows, 250iu hcg daily mon-thurs, 15mg clomid fri-sun, 0.5 mL Selegiline every day.

I'm really hating being on this clomid, my face is bloated and I just do not feel good at all. I did not expect this at all I figured because clomid is an anti-E I wouldn't being experiecing these effects of water retention, bloat, etc. I'm taking the clomid at nights fri-sun and i realy see it doing absolutely nothing. At this point I think my E2 is too high and i'm experiencing all the negative side effects of it
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Try to stop overanalyzing everything Bro and give it some more time. You have to be more patient, otherwise you are only hindering your recovery with all the stress. You are under the care of a great Dr. and need to have more faith. I know you don't want to hear this but it's true Bro.
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yea i understand but this is a restart log so i'm doing my best to post exactly whats going on. so like i said, on the clomid not feeling too good, very bloated, low energy
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It's more likely to be the HCG bloating u up, and it's just taken a few days to happen. Clomid won't bloat u up overnight (if it was the clomid). Hell, even dianabol would take more than a few days to really bloat u.

I prefere to take clomid in the morning because it tends to keep me up at night. I guess u probably wouldn't notice so much on 15mg but something to keep in mind.
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ahhh very true good point about the hcg. i definately think it's making my e2 too high i guess we'll see in 3 weeks when i do my bloodtest.
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I found that the HCG really made me bloated. Try some epson salt baths (magnesium) till you get everything sorted with your doc. They are also good for recovery from intense training. Pop 400-600g in the tub and take a long soak. It seemed to help me.

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