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Old 12-17-2005, 01:10 PM
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Where can I find research information about supplements mention above that documents the safety of the supplements? My wife is very cautious about what I take. For her peace of mind I would like to assure her that they are okay.

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Where can I find research information about supplements mention above that documents the safety of the supplements? My wife is very cautious about what I take. For her peace of mind I would like to assure her that they are okay.
Pure Encapsulations and Life Extension Foundation.
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If I wanted to use a product(s) for a period of time, say 3-6 months, in order to prepare for a major exam, like the CPA, what would you suggest? Namely, what would be beneficial for 1) focus, and 2) memory retention?
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If I wanted to use a product(s) for a period of time, say 3-6 months, in order to prepare for a major exam, like the CPA, what would you suggest? Namely, what would be beneficial for 1) focus, and 2) memory retention?
when I first got interested in these products, I was working with a doc who advocated their use and I went thru many one by one or a few at a time. If I were to start all over and had the constrains of time that you sited, I'd use a good formulation from a reliable, informed source. I'd go the Pure Encapsulations and consider a trial of Cognitive Factors and/or Cognitive Aminos for a month or so. LEF also sells a combinaton under a similar name. The components are pharmaceutical grade and each site has a health library to validate the need and dose for each component. Of course all of this presupposes a healthy, balanced diet and adequate rest.
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when I first got interested in these products, I was working with a doc who advocated their use and I went thru many one by one or a few at a time. If I were to start all over and had the constrains of time that you sited, I'd use a good formulation from a reliable, informed source. I'd go the Pure Encapsulations and consider a trial of Cognitive Factors and/or Cognitive Aminos for a month or so. LEF also sells a combinaton under a similar name. The components are pharmaceutical grade and each site has a health library to validate the need and dose for each component. Of course all of this presupposes a healthy, balanced diet and adequate rest.
How much does that type supplement regimen cost?

Also, what are the effects of drugs like ritalin in normal adults (ie, not ADHD)? Would that be a viable option if it were legal?
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Also, what are the effects of drugs like ritalin in normal adults (ie, not ADHD)? Would that be a viable option if it were legal?
one of my former docs used Provigil to get thru massive amounts of material consumed over some very long study periods and did very well. He did well on his family medicine boards. Yes, ritalin could be used and has been. There is a phenomenon called " state dependant learning". However, for that last minute push, and under some conditions of sleep deprivation, many an MD and PhD have made friends with the amphetamines. The military made no secret over the use of amphetamines with fighter pilots during both Gulf Wars.
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one of my former docs used Provigil to get thru massive amounts of material consumed over some very long study periods and did very well. He did well on his family medicine boards. Yes, ritalin could be used and has been. There is a phenomenon called " state dependant learning". However, for that last minute push, and under some conditions of sleep deprivation, many an MD and PhD have made friends with the amphetamines. The military made no secret over the use of amphetamines with fighter pilots during both Gulf Wars.
HeadDoc my Dr. tried a lot of meds to help me with fatigue. First stimulants that made my BP go up and my heart race witch was not good for my panic. Then a slow release Ritalin came out called Concerta we tried this and wow my engery was up and my brain fog was much better. I can focus on things much better. I was doing this long before trying SWALE's protocol now I could do with out it buy don't want to. My Dr. said that they are using it for HIV people to help with fatigue and brain fog.
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