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Old 10-27-2009, 09:07 PM
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Default Can someone take a look at my test results?

I just received my labs back and was hoping I could get some feedback.

When I first went to the doctor back in March my Total Testosterone was 189 on a scale of 241 - 827, it lists my Free Testosterone (Direct) at 7.5 on a scale from 7.2 - 24.0. The doc originally put me on Androgel which had little effect so he put me on Test C in July.

So I just picked up my results today:

Total Testosterone - 691
Free Testosterone % - 3.09
Free Testosterone - 213.5

My Free levels now seem like they are out of whack.
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Default Re: Can someone take a look at my test results?

Hard to interpret without also seeing your Estradiol numbers.

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Default Re: Can someone take a look at my test results?

You need to next test your Estradiol and SHBG levels if high this binds up Free T get your Estrdiol down to about 20 pg/ml do you get night time and morning wood if not your more then likely high.
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I just received my labs back and was hoping I could get some feedback.

When I first went to the doctor back in March my Total Testosterone was 189 on a scale of 241 - 827, it lists my Free Testosterone (Direct) at 7.5 on a scale from 7.2 - 24.0. The doc originally put me on Androgel which had little effect so he put me on Test C in July.

So I just picked up my results today:

Total Testosterone - 691
Free Testosterone % - 3.09
Free Testosterone - 213.5

My Free levels now seem like they are out of whack.
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You need to next test your Estradiol and SHBG levels if high this binds up Free T get your Estrdiol down to about 20 pg/ml do you get night time and morning wood if not your more then likely high.
Actually you know it's funny, when I first started my shots I was getting morning wood for the first time in years, but probably for the last month it has tailed off.

I'll request a Estridol and SHBG test next. Thanks guys I appreciate the feedback.
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Ho will you be prepare for these Estridol and SHBG test ? and how much time do you need? anyhow but maintain the ratio. ok
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Default Re: Can someone take a look at my test results?

Funny you should mention this. I have read many others talk about the affects susiding quickly. When I first started TRT (200mg/wk), I got great wood and shot the hugest loads. We are talking 7 footers accross the room! Almost immediately, within two weeks, those positive sexual effects tailed off. I did not really care because I felt so much better overall. I am not sure yet what is the culpret here for sure. I am still assuming that these positive sexual reponses are quickly neutralized by the spike in E2 that follows the injection. ESPECIALLY a 200mg injection. That is simply too large a dose to put in at once! It seems to me, that the worst thing about E2 is that "it" seems to develop a pretty good memory. With regard to this phenomenom of good results in the "cock & shoot" department, this really positive moment really only lasts for a week or two window, and as far as I can tell, it will only occur if you have been off TRT or low on testosterone for at least 3-4 months prior to the initialization of testosterone supplementation. My theory is that once the body gets used to receiving exogenous testosterone, it develops a fast acting game plan for what to do when it gets it. I beileve that once testosterone levels have been restored to "normal", from then on it immediately generates plenty of E2, if not even too much in relation to your body's natural proprotional setpoint. I am also starting to develop a theory that any available testosterone in excess of the body's current intended natural level (if your body wants to be at 200ng/dl), will aromatize to excessive E2 in higher than naturally intended proportions. It almost seems like the aromatization process (makes E2) must be easier for the body to perform, than the alpha--reductase (makes DHT) process. AT LEAST FOR ME. But one common factor I notice is that EVERYONE seems to experienve strong positive sexual response at the inception of TRT and then subsides.?? So if the body truely wants to have a natural level of 200 per say, and it is going to create skewed abusive levels of E2 if you attempt to tamper with it, THEN WHY BOTHER??? So now you are adding all these exogenous chemicals for what.?? now subjecting the body to things like Adex and HCG just to try to stay even?? So if you are really lucky you can find a brief window of good balance that only lasts a few days tops (it seems to me) after all this effort....!

You will probably also notice that your prostate will "dry up" within six months. Loads get smaller and dont seem to be pre-mixing right prior to shooting. You will also find that there is a diminished muscular activity with regard to the strength of the ejaculation. I dont even want to think about why this happens because I fear it could only be due to the prostate being exposed to extended and highly detrimental levels of elevated E2. AND WHAT LONG TERM DAMAGE AM I DOING NOW?? And again I have heard many speak of this issue. I quit TRT and everything about a year ago. Sure enough, day by day, it got better. I was ejacuting full powerful loads within 3 months, like I had not seen prior to starting TRT.!! I can barely remember that now.

Dont get me wrong as I am guilty of abusing testosterone in high doses from time to time so I am not the poster child for a model of proper TRT by any means. I was merely bringing up the point of how much work, dedication, education it takes to even reach that window of optimal results. And how many chemicals the propsition really requires to ATTEMPT to stay there. Finally you need to note that more than likely your E2 level has already outrun your body''s proper T/E ratio and you are now being mauled by the evil that Estrogen is. With low SHBG your body is allowed to have a higher level of free testosterone available to make the conversion to E2. I am going to guess that your SHBG will come in around 12.... Thus proving same. Then its time to start mitigating the E2 with Arimidex, and dont forget to support your boys with HCG so that they dont completey die during TRT. You will regret it if you dont.

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Actually you know it's funny, when I first started my shots I was getting morning wood for the first time in years, but probably for the last month it has tailed off.

I'll request a Estridol and SHBG test next. Thanks guys I appreciate the feedback.
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