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I thought this was interesting. It's an excerpt from the LEF Male Hormone Modulation article at the following link.

"Synthetic testosterone "steroid" drugs are chemically different from the testosterone your body makes and do not provide the same effect as natural testosterone. Some of the synthetic testosterone drugs to avoid using on a long-term basis are methyltestosterone, danazol, oxandrolone, testosterone propionate, cypionate, or enanthate."

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-...prtcl-130.html
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I thought this was interesting. It's an excerpt from the LEF Male Hormone Modulation article at the following link.

"Synthetic testosterone "steroid" drugs are chemically different from the testosterone your body makes and do not provide the same effect as natural testosterone. Some of the synthetic testosterone drugs to avoid using on a long-term basis are methyltestosterone, danazol, oxandrolone, testosterone propionate, cypionate, or enanthate."

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-...prtcl-130.html
so that pretty much rules out everything lol
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They don't like shots - only transdermals.
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This is one of the statements made by the anti-aging community that causes them to be labeled quacks. By extension, TRT is also labeled as quack medicine by the ignorant majority. Until TRT is prescribed by practitioners with no "exclusive" formulas to sell, TRT will not be taken as seriously by mainstream medicine. Testosterone is a hormone, as insulin is, imagine what tragedy would occur if it were promoted by the same genre of circus clowns.
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They don't like shots - only transdermals.
What do they think is in the transdermals??
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It is bioidentical testosterone to them. To me, it is test, no ester, from the fine chemical plants in Red China. Unless what they are selling is extracted from actual testicles, it is yet more smoke and mirrors that hurts our cause. I have yet to hear of someone being harmed by properly managed use of test cyp or en. It is not like those poisons known as Premarin or Provera for women.
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What do they think is in the transdermals??
testosterone without an ester attached. The same thing that is produced by the body.

Of course, when the body removed the esters from testosterone cypionate and the like, guess what you are left with? That's right: the same testosterone molecule that is produced by the body.

I just ignore anything from LEF.

IMHO, "anti-aging" is a loaded term and I don't like it. I'm 27. In a few months, I will be 28. The only thing that can stop that is death, which I prefer to avoid. But I'm getting off topic here.
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My Dr basically was saying the same thing as LEF. The bio identical version of test has no sides, while the injections do. After learning from this site and not getting any resulst from the bio identical stuff he prescrbed me, I had him switch me to injections of test cyp. Starting to feel a bit better after the 3rd week.
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testosterone without an ester attached. The same thing that is produced by the body.

Of course, when the body removed the esters from testosterone cypionate and the like, guess what you are left with? That's right: the same testosterone molecule that is produced by the body.

I just ignore anything from LEF.

IMHO, "anti-aging" is a loaded term and I don't like it. I'm 27. In a few months, I will be 28. The only thing that can stop that is death, which I prefer to avoid. But I'm getting off topic here.
Yep ignore LEF they are about selling not your heath. They say and word things to help sell there stuff.
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