Testicle size post-HRT

[Mmartin]

Quick update: The last shot of my HRT (200mg) was on the 25th of September. After being on for a few months, with dosages ranging from 100-200mg, my testicles were pretty small.
I began clomid and nolva therapy (100mg/day and 20mg/day, respectively) 10 days ago (Oct 3rd), but I don't know how soon I can expect to make progress. My testicles seem larger when they are close to my body, but when they are hanging (and in the shower) they are still very small.
I feel all right. Morning wood is ~60%. Libido still minimal. Lethargy is present but bearable. I do seem to be experiencing an increase in acne.
What is the "true" story with my testicles? is 10 days simply too early to expect any changes?

Thanks for putting up with my questions

[jawbone]

It will take several months for things to get back to normal. I dont mean to worry you but some men never recover from any manipulation of their HPTA. I was told by an HRT doc it is like 1% that never recover. So the odds are in your favor that you will. The acne is most likely from the SERM use(more than likely from the Clomid).

I dont know your whole story but I cannot imagine too much testicular atrophy after only a few months of HRT.
Out of curiosity, why Nolva and Clomid? Both are the same class of meds and work the same way but the nolva has a slightly safer profile.

[Mmartin]

I ordered clomid and got free nolvadex, so I thought I would use them concurrently (and have read of people doing this when significantly shutdown due to AAS).

With regards to my testicular atrophy; even 5g of androgel was shutting my testicles down. When I began shots (of 100-150mg/week test. cypionate with a few at 200mg, never more) the atrophy simply got worse. My testicles aren't quite at the "raisin" stage, but quite close.

[mranak]

Testicular atrohphy is usually extremely obvious. For example, the balls shrink to the size of raisins. Many guys tend to get paranoid.

While it might take a while for your hormones to normalize, your LH output should already be elevated enough to be stimulating the leydig cells, which produce testosterone, which the steroli cells use, at which time they should return to normal size if they haven't already.

[jawbone]

actually it is the Leydig cells that LH stimulates and makes the bulk of the testis.

[mranak]

Originally Posted by jawbone

actually it is the Leydig cells that LH stimulates

Correct.

Originally Posted by jawbone

and makes the bulk of the testis.

Wrong. The bulk of 'em is steroli, not leydig.

[youngBuilder]

Originally Posted by jawbone

actually it is the Leydig cells that LH stimulates and makes the bulk of the testis.

I was told FSH is what makes for the size of the testicles? Because it is regulated by the hormone inhibin which is also responsible.

[jawbone]

well, I(we) take LH(HCG) to prevent or reverse atrophy. Therefore, I thought I(we) were stimulating the bulk of the interstitial/stromal testicular tissue which would be composed of leydig cells and therefore change the size of the testicle.