Testicular Inflammation & Pain? - MESO-Rx

Megazoid · #1 (**permalink**) 10-10-2007, 03:37 PM

I am curious to know if anyone on this forum experiences any kind of chronic pain or inflammatory based pain from there testicles? Be it infection, prostate, epdidymys pain, etc.

I need to know a few things. First off, most day's i experience some degree of testicular pain. The pain isn't localized to the testicle itself (left side) but rather the left side veins which are still somewhat enlarged and feeling dilated/inflamed constantly. There isn't a day that goes past that i don't get the testicular aches.

My testicles are usually pulled up tight (ever since the atrophy set in) and this doesn't help with the pain, it still exists. I do find the pain less at night for some reason. The scrotum is usually more relaxed and less painful.

This has lead to the hormone Prostaglandin. This is used to control smooth muscle contraction, tissue elacstity and inflammation. There are various drugs that contain this 'hormone' that help reduce pain. It also used within "Caverjet", the ED drug that is injected into the penis.

This has lead me to a few questions, i hope someone can offer some insight:

1) What effect would chronic, dull aching pain give to the endocrine system? adrenal exughstation?

2) Could my symptoms be related to pain response (penile shrinkage, lack of smooth muscle contraction, etc)?

3) What can be done to stop the pain?

My only thoughts right now are to improve NO production around my body and hopefully oxygenate the veins more. TRT would offer this capabilitie. HCG would be another advocate of this.

Would cortisol reduce the pain/inflammation and can vascular related inflammation (which i believe varicocele is) be reduced using drugs?

My last resort (though i will do this if required) is simply to have the veins and testicle removed completely.

cjones · #2 (**permalink**) 10-10-2007, 04:43 PM

The pain will deplete what cortisol you have and offshoot plenty adrenaline so you are right there. I remember when I was young having dulling aches in the testicle and it does make things worse, pulling up etc. Your adrenals are in no fit state to put up with this now and no doubt we need adrenal support

I am surprised your GP hasn't prescribed you something for inflammation to fix this up with the discomfort, pain etc you are suffering because of it

BBC3 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-15-2007, 01:03 AM

Sorry if I am chiming in uninformedly.... As i am unaware of your history or any story behind this. I just wanted to interject. I had a buddy that had vericosis of the testicular area. Sorry if poor spelling. You could actually see extra veins down there. I thought that it was rather dramatic and felt he should probably go with his doctors advise to have the extra veins surgically removed, except for the fact that he was so promiscuous, it would probably cause him more bad (kids with strangers) than good. I had to see a urologist years later for a reproductive issue. I was sure that there was nothing wrong with my sack after seeing his problem so pronounced. I was supprised when the urologist told me I had a slight vericosis myself. Believe me, it is not visible nor detectible to amateur hands. So this can apparently be a significant problem even at small levels. Anyway, the effects are numerous including all kinds of testicular malfunction, due to the overheating of the testiclescaused by the excessive quantity of blood flow. If you have not seen a urologist, do so, as i am sure they could help...

s0b · #4 (**permalink**) 10-29-2007, 03:31 PM

I saw a urologist today, he told me i have 99% varicose veins/varicocele after checking me with ultrasound, i have had adrenal fatigue and low cortisol production for 8 months now. I dont know if it related but i definately know that this thing hurts and my testicle is swollen.
My knees also heart a great deal lately making it unable for me to walk once again

Megazoid, go for an ultrasound and a doppler dont let any pain go like that.

Megazoid · #5 (**permalink**) 10-29-2007, 04:08 PM

s0b, thanks for the reply. Sorry to hear you also had trouble with varicocele.

I had a varicocele on the left side and it was pretty minor (not noticable from the outside but could be felt through the scrotum itself). I had an ultrasound done that confirmed i had a cyst too on the right spermatic cord and a degree of "blockage" on the right epidydmys. The right testicle was also atrophied due to being undescended as a baby.

The left varicocele showed up on ultrasound and had some back flow. I got the varicocele fixed using varicocele embolization, the main amount of the swelling dissappeared and it was difficult (if not impossible) to feel it through the sack. I was told 4/5 coils were inserted into the damaged vein(s).

I noticed while the dull aching had went away from my stomach i could still detect some minor pain in the actual groin area.

I am not convinced all the pain is varicocele related, i think some is low hormones effecting the tissues, muscles, tendons, etc in the area giving the actual pain.

The main problem for me with regards to getting the varicocele repaired was that the testicular atrophy had already occured bad by the point it was fixed.

Now i am trying to fix the damage that varicocele has done...I believe i might need to go on full HRT though, because my thyroid, adrenals and sex hormoens were all shot down.

s0b · #6 (**permalink**) 10-29-2007, 05:31 PM

Is embolization better than getting it surgically fixed?
My doc told me that in the end i might want to get a surgery because i will be getting back to lifting weights and it will be hard on my situation to pressure my self so much.

Give some details Megazoid

Megazoid · #7 (**permalink**) 10-29-2007, 05:55 PM

Both have there advantages and disadvantages.

I believe micro surgery is the best option, but this is quite invasive (though obviously not as much as regular surgery - everything is done using a special microscope).

Embolization is done using a small tube put through your vascular system, small coils are inserted to block off the bad vein and redirect the blood flow.

Embolization is just as good as open surgery imho, without having the recovery times.

pmgamer18 · #8 (**permalink**) 10-30-2007, 11:44 AM

Years ago when I was on gels and they were not getting my T levels high enough every injury I had in my body hurt. I ended up house bound for yrs. When I stood up I could hardly walk had an MRI on my back nothing. When I switched to shots of T in just one day I started feeling better. In 4 weeks I was out side in working in the yard and walking for exercise. If you guys have pain try a shot of testosterone if it helps stay on it. I have told a lot of guys about this and it worked for them. One guy his Dr. told him to keep his levels lower so he does not get cancer well the poor gay could not work. He talked to me and found a bettter Dr. that gave him more and got him back to work.

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Originally Posted by Megazoid

Both have there advantages and disadvantages.

I believe micro surgery is the best option, but this is quite invasive (though obviously not as much as regular surgery - everything is done using a special microscope).

Embolization is done using a small tube put through your vascular system, small coils are inserted to block off the bad vein and redirect the blood flow.

Embolization is just as good as open surgery imho, without having the recovery times.

s0b · #9 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 11:10 AM

Phil why wouldnt the gels work for you? I thought, and read plenty of articles (including dr.Johns-correct me if im wrong) that the T gel is the best approach, smoother releasing times and so on. I have an appointment with the new endocrinologist in one hour and we are going to discuss TRT. What should i ask for? Gel, shots, pads? what?

Im still thinking though that maybe by just correcting my varicose veins i will get my testicle to work better.

pmgamer18 · #10 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by s0b

Phil why wouldnt the gels work for you? I thought, and read plenty of articles (including dr.Johns-correct me if im wrong) that the T gel is the best approach, smoother releasing times and so on. I have an appointment with the new endocrinologist in one hour and we are going to discuss TRT. What should i ask for? Gel, shots, pads? what?

Im still thinking though that maybe by just correcting my varicose veins i will get my testicle to work better.

I feel the gels don't get the testosterone to my joints and mescles were shots did at first we thought it was my levels but they are about the same today. I have told othere men about this and they switched to shots and got relief from there pain. I think it's about how the T gets into the blood doing shots it's there doing gels it has to go through the skin.