Thyroid Hormone and Testicular function (Excellent article)

[researchin]

Originally Posted by zkt

Jimrat, dont expect immediate results in mass. Your increasing T levels indicate that thee boys are listening to the signals- and thats a good thing- patience.

Researchin, I dont understand your comments. There is not one size(Dx,Rx,Px) that fits all. I assure you that, as one who is currently wading thru 437 clinical studies concerning dietary factors and arterial restenosis, that the Docs are following tried and true scientific methodology. Sorry to say that perhaps your dismay involves a lack of foundation and impatience.

To clarify my comments, I'm saying the article only covers a certain scenario, not a certain person.

For example, it's fact that I'm not in that scenario. However I could be in the future, or could've been in the past. Your "one size doesn't fit all" anecdote doesn't apply here. You'd be shocked to find out that most of us are actually very similar and that the main difference is the "stage" of the disease, what level is/was their OTHER hormone, NOT the person.

Funny you mention patience. After spending hundreds of hours with various Doctors, you'd know most are clueless. Dr.M, Dr.J, etc.. will back this up. There are FEW Doctors who treat you properly, let alone look for a root cause. I don't have to elaborate there.

I look through clinical studies too, sorry to say, most diet changes don't affect hormones. There's the common sense "cut dairy, gluten, etc, and eat more cholesterol & meat". But, it's nothing like getting a shot of T.

You know this already though..

[researchin]

I think what I'm saying, to be clear..., is that tests aren't very clear and they miss out variables that any of us would've wanted investigated.

It can be very frustrating.

For example, the first post in this thread, the poster makes a VERY fair assumption based on the study done, that :

This is one of the few articles i could find that speaks directly about the effects of thyroid hormone on testicular function, fertility and hormonal parameters (SHBG and so fourth).

Unfortunately, the study doesn't clarify what else is really going on. What are the root causes for this whole situation to happen?

Imagine how powerful our information would be, if we could line up in separate ranks and file and say,:

"I'm hypo due to car crash injury"
"I'm hypo, because I ate bread and I'm allergic to it"
"I'm hypo, because I don't make enough testosterone, the body sapped my adrenals to make up for that, then my thyroid value went low. NO antibodies"

One day.., one day, I hope to see that happen. And then everything and everyone will be so much more clear.

It's one of my beliefs, that any of us are capable of any of the diseases. As you notice above, they are not genetic issues, they are potentially able to happen to anyone. Many people develop inability to digest gluten and it's not genetic. In fact, "coeliac" as a disease is questionable and it's rare for someone to have it genetically.

Perhaps many of us share some sort of "weak testosterone" gene, who knows, but we share something and that's all of us being of the human race and having virtually identical genetic makeup.

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I know think I have a good idea why my PCT seems to lag........I am going to try and work this info into my next PCT. I am thinking my dosage of T3 and T4 need to be higher they have not been changed since I went on thyroid drugs over 18 years ago.