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Old 11-01-2009, 11:03 PM
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hey guys I am very interested in this product and it's capabilities. I can't seem to find any study's proving testosterone increases. I have tried the supplement but didn't feel much. Does anyone have any personal experience or can find any studies. Thanks in advance guys.
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Tongkat Ali is so much stronger than anyone here would give it credit for. I'm surprised to read about so many males with low testosterone who jump on HRT without even giving it a go. I recommended it to my Uncle who is overweight, mildly diabetic, poor libido, etc and afer a few weeks his diabetes was gone, he has lost weight, and his sex drive is better than when he was a teen. But getting the right stuff and taking the right dosage is essential. Try taking SD-500 or Sumatra Pasak Bumi Tongkat Ali. You'll need to consume at least 1000 mg per day, at an extract strength of at least 1:50, or it won't have an effect.

If low testosterone is where ones problems lies, tongkat ali can be a Godsend.
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Tongkat Ali is so much stronger than anyone here would give it credit for. I'm surprised to read about so many males with low testosterone who jump on HRT without even giving it a go. I recommended it to my Uncle who is overweight, mildly diabetic, poor libido, etc and afer a few weeks his diabetes was gone, he has lost weight, and his sex drive is better than when he was a teen. But getting the right stuff and taking the right dosage is essential. Try taking SD-500 or Sumatra Pasak Bumi Tongkat Ali. You'll need to consume at least 1000 mg per day, at an extract strength of at least 1:50, or it won't have an effect.

If low testosterone is where ones problems lies, tongkat ali can be a Godsend.
Wow thats good new man. I bought the 1:50 from tongkatali.com.. I took it for like 2 weeks didn't feel anything and stopped. Didn't really feel an effect but I was scared of the toxity, 0.08ppm of lead. I don't like anything with a toxic metal in it. But anyway that may be such a low amount of lead that it doesn't matter, so correct me on that if i'm wrong. Do you have links to the websites. Btw the also caused me to stay up later and not feel like sleeping as much. Little bit more energy.
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Btw i'm looking for a way out or hormal replacement. Or just slight HRT, tribestan and tongkat ali seem to be the best bets..
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Tongkat Ali is so much stronger than anyone here would give it credit for. I'm surprised to read about so many males with low testosterone who jump on HRT without even giving it a go. I recommended it to my Uncle who is overweight, mildly diabetic, poor libido, etc and afer a few weeks his diabetes was gone, he has lost weight, and his sex drive is better than when he was a teen. But getting the right stuff and taking the right dosage is essential. Try taking SD-500 or Sumatra Pasak Bumi Tongkat Ali. You'll need to consume at least 1000 mg per day, at an extract strength of at least 1:50, or it won't have an effect.

If low testosterone is where ones problems lies, tongkat ali can be a Godsend.
Not going to work, body will start to compensate after a couple weeks.
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Not going to work, body will start to compensate after a couple weeks.
Any studies on tongkats effect on test levels?
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Firstly, I would only buy Tongkat Ali from the following sites:

Pure Tongkat Ali Extract Supplement 1:200 root extract - SD-200
Tongkat ali - fully licensed and in compliance with all regulations

Most of the other products are pretty much worthless from what I've heard from others.

My advice would be to get some, take at least 1000mg a day for 2 weeks, rest it for a week, then start taking it again. If you feel next to nothing after this it's fair to assume it won't work for you, or your problems don't lie with testosterone. Have you had bloodtests done? Testosterone isn't the only hormone that influences sexual function in men, there are many others.

In regards to studies performed on Tongkat Ali, the following website should answer all your questions:

www.testingtongkatali.com

Tongkat Ali can be very effective in my experience.
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I have used this in the past before I got on proper TRT.

You have to cycle this stuff. Also, you still have to manage estrogen issues. Anything that elevates T will elevate E if there's nothing added to reduce conversion of T to E.

Our systems don't work in isolation.

I can tell you from personal experience, if you want to stick to herbals, Diesel Test Hardcore is the best I've ever tried. And that has to be cycled. Just speaking as a former customer, not sponsored by them or anything like that. I've been on doctor-directed TRT for the past few years anyway, and in some ways, DTH was better and easier to manage. But it's more expensive than my copays.
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Firstly, I would only buy Tongkat Ali from the following sites:

Pure Tongkat Ali Extract Supplement 1:200 root extract - SD-200
Tongkat ali - fully licensed and in compliance with all regulations

Most of the other products are pretty much worthless from what I've heard from others.

My advice would be to get some, take at least 1000mg a day for 2 weeks, rest it for a week, then start taking it again. If you feel next to nothing after this it's fair to assume it won't work for you, or your problems don't lie with testosterone. Have you had bloodtests done? Testosterone isn't the only hormone that influences sexual function in men, there are many others.

In regards to studies performed on Tongkat Ali, the following website should answer all your questions:

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Tongkat Ali can be very effective in my experience.
Yeah bro is definetly lies within testosterone. My levels came up at 253, 466, 404. My lh=2.6 by fsh=1.9 estradiol=17 estrone=43. I have got other stuff checked but don't have the results on hand. I live love everything about my life but in the past year I have noticed a huge change after using marijuana. It sucks how much that stuff affected my test levels. Oh well i'm ready to fix it and i'm young. Clearly this shouldn't be happening but I have made huge progress in my life since I quit. Diet, vitamins, excersize, lifestyle is perfect. I have just been down about sex, energy, distancy with friends and a slight gynecomastia...
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Alright guys I just ordered the 200:1 tongkat ali extract from tongkatali.org. Apparently alot of people have been successful. I am planning on seeing my urologist in 2 week to get HRT treatment of some sort hopefuly. If he gives me clomid I will use the tongkat ali and tribestan along with it. Hopefuly I will be successful with this. Any thoughts on this. Btw if you guys know who dr. shippen is, my doctor follows his protocols and I was refered to him by dr. shippen. I live in maryland and have to travel to annapolis, about an hour. Hopefuly everything works out and I get my test levels back to normal. I'm also looking forward to a possible selegiline treatment as well. Any thoughts. I'm hoping to get my test levels to atleast the 800s-900s. This seems realistic with the herbs and drugs=). What do you guys think??
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