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I would strongly advise against it. While the hCG will increase T levels; it will have dramatic peaks and troughs resulting in excess estrogen production. Therefore, if you are going to do just hCG at least use some tomaxifen with it. That way you will be preventing the estrogen surge.
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Protocol: 500IU-1000IU IM Q3Days for 12 days,
Then, 2000-2500 IU IM Q3Days for 9 days,
Finally, 500-1000IU IM Q3Days for 24 days.
Tamoxifen 10-20mg every day and for two weeks after.
What would this accomplish over a short period as you speak of. I know it will increase test and control estrogen. Im very curious have, what was the success with this. And did it last permenently?
PP,
The goal in the situation where I used this protocol before was merely to regain fairly normal T production/ axis restoration after Deca suppression. Your assumption is correct; this will only produce supraphysiologic T levels for a short period but the end result is fairly normal T levels. As far as permanent....I cannot yet report on that as I have not followed this type of situation for longer than 6 months. Once I have more concrete evidence I will be happy to share it; however, at this time I do not know how long the results will last.
Karl
PP,
The goal in the situation where I used this protocol before was merely to regain fairly normal T production/ axis restoration after Deca suppression. Your assumption is correct; this will only produce supraphysiologic T levels for a short period but the end result is fairly normal T levels. As far as permanent....I cannot yet report on that as I have not followed this type of situation for longer than 6 months. Once I have more concrete evidence I will be happy to share it; however, at this time I do not know how long the results will last.
Karl
That is something very interesting and I have been thinking about. Deca is a drug that suppresses test production. I have not used any steroids but after using marijuana I become hypogonadal. Since marijuana decreases test levels by damaging the leydig cells. I'm wondering If I used a short term hcg protocol would it bring me back to normal levels and stay. I seems like it would in theory but i'm not sure. I haven't tried anything to bring my test levels up except herbs, diet, and vitamins. I'm trying to learn everything about the drugs and such that will take me up to normal test levels. So far my options look like hcg, selegiline, clomid. Any experience with these?
ALRIGHT GOD DAMNIT!!! Forget all that you read from that idiot DO. Not because he is a DO, but because he is clearly an asshole physician that doesn't know jack shit about hormone modulation. AND yet has the nerve to put DO in his name.
What you have here is a doc that went out on a limb. It is common protocal for a doc to think that one (1) 5000 iu shot of HCG will solve all of the problems in the world. But the problem is that most avg docs (like this one) dont know shit about hormones. ASSHOLE advising a dose like that AND THEN COMMING BACK WITH "He doesn't know what will happen next"??????? Or whatever the fuck he said. Everyone. Take a look at his name and his avatar. It is a misnomer, and a mindfuck! This is a perfectly good example of a snake in disguise, that didnt even know he was a snake. AND YES, 90% of DO's are fucking idiots. SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH KARL UNTIL YOU HAVE SOME SENSE. "havent tracked beyond 6 months" ????? I mean fuck off. You are the worst offender of misleading bullshit by presentation I have seen here in a while.
As far as the subject goes. HCG monotherapy does exist. It is a questionable practice to say the least that should apply to few situations with additional supplementation of applicable compounds. I am guessing that the most applicable of situations would be if one were determined a type I hypogonadism meaning the brain was damaged. Then you would also require some HMG, and arimidex at a minimum. AND THATS IF YOU WERE ONLY A TYPE ONE WHICH I AM SURE IS A RARE FUCKING BEAST TO BE FOUND EXISTING PURELY IN NATURE.
HCG Monotherapy for type II ( the predominant type) hypos for one simple reason. YOU WILL SURELY WORK THOSE BOYS TO DEATH FOR WHATEVER THE RESPONSE IS WORTH.
HCG is for healthy maintenance, and for others. our personal fantacies that our nuts will again work some day. Its also happens to be really nice to feel those nutz swollen up like a 15 year old that just rubbed on his first pussy, couldn't even find the hole, and spent the night smelling his finger.
Thank you all and good night. I'm drunk now
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got into me again last night. My bad. Please stick around and learn DO....
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