Very high Reverse T3

[cjones]

Did you guys who had this let it effect starting Armour? I have read about taking T3 only for 3-4 months and then retesting RT3 before anything. Any experiences or advice would be appreciated

[eeso]

If u have very high reverse T3 u need to take T3 only, slowly ramp it up, maintain for a month, then ramp it back down. Then hopefully your body will stop making reverse T3 from T4 and u can supplement with armour.

I'm waiting on labs for reverse t3, should be another 2 weeks.

[hardasnails1973]

Originally Posted by cjones

Did you guys who had this let it effect starting Armour? I have read about taking T3 only for 3-4 months and then retesting RT3 before anything. Any experiences or advice would be appreciated

most likely zinc defieincy or malfunctioning in zinc transport (mineral compeition in intestinal tract or lack of arachoncidic acid was my big fall or even low progesterone) if you are sucking down fish oils like its going out of style you need to reevaluate diet. RT3 are increasd in starvation or malpsorption syndromes. also selelnium defieincy. Spectracell mineral analyisis will answer these questions

[eeso]

hardasnails: how many fish oil caps per day is ok to take?

[Sargovar]

Also, Hardasnails, can such an imbalance be brought about by an excessive intake of any kind of omega 3s, or just fish oil?
Asking since I take a few tablespoonfuls of cold pressed rapeseed oil every day, which is high in omega 3s.

[cjones]

I think HAN was implying a diet of chicken and fish is best for tyrosine, zinc, selenium etc to address any deficiencys. I know too high or low cortisol causes problems and add in lowered immunity is not good. Val told me with hypothyroidism everything is down regulated including the pituitary function and adrenals producing dhea and cortisol

I think Dr Lowe and Peatfield are right about this because illness and life events can cause permanent thyroid damage. I haven't seen a case here yet of T3 alone "wilsons syndrome" therapy that has worked in "theory"

[hardasnails1973]

Originally Posted by Sargovar

Also, Hardasnails, can such an imbalance be brought about by an excessive intake of any kind of omega 3s, or just fish oil?
Asking since I take a few tablespoonfuls of cold pressed rapeseed oil every day, which is high in omega 3s.

GET IODINE LEVELS CHECKED VIA URINE LOAD !!
GOTO SEARCH AND PUT IN IODINE URINE TEST and you will get the link


Main cause for my demise was excessive omega 3 from flax seed oil for so many years this drove my arachonconic acid into the ground causing basically my hypothalamus to goto sleep because with out AA zinc is not transported hence LH,thyroid, adrenals go ape shit misfiring all over the place. Well i think you just answered your own question RAPE SEED WILL SHUT YOU DOWN FASTER THEN ANYTHING IT IS HIGH GOITEREINIC

SpringerLink - Journal Article
The results obtained indicate that rapeseed oil, and specifically its unsaponifiable fraction, contain a factor (or factors) which interferes with the ability of the thyroid gland to accumulate iodine from the plasma, but which does not seem to prevent the binding of iodine in organic form. For this reason, the thyroid gland itself becomes deficient in iodine, with the consequence that the synthesis of thyroxine is reduced and the secretion of thyrotrophic hormone increased. The result is hypothyroidism, despite the presence of an adequate amount of iodine in the diet.

great keep continuing and your thyroid will be in the shitter
google hypothyroid and rapeseed
BTW is actually a poison used to kill insects LOL

[hardasnails1973]

Originally Posted by eeso

hardasnails: how many fish oil caps per day is ok to take?

for average person you need to fully examines one past eating habits to make that determination. Most people that are health based and been eating fidh 2-3 times a week one tsp of carlsons is fine or in pill form
500-1000 mgs epa
500-1000 mgs dha

To really find out one should have a EPA / AA ratio done from genova diagnostic to verify id one is taking excwessive of anything.

When people come to me i examine EVERYTHING in there life from stress to dietaty habits ect and if they have good insurance i suggest there dr to run specific test to help to give more accruate answer to whats going on. Then I compile the data and come up with nutritoinal plan based up all the infomration and after 3-4 months we retest the abnormaites and then may be check it once a year as maintence..
i work from the inside out.. I make the people aware that these are the findings and here is the clinical results and studies which were done so they can see for them selves and make the determination if they want to follow my SUGGESTIONS because I do not prescribe any thing!! i write a follow up report so that they can give it to there dr so they can look at it as well. Some drs are cool and really interested other just say I'm a nut case. But so far feed back has been extremly posistive...

[Sargovar]

That's interesting to know.. thanks for the heads up! I don't think I've managed to screw up my thyroid just yet, though; my free T3 was at the top of the range and free T4 was past midrange, which tells me my thyroid is at least capable of producing (even if it doesn't get to the cells for some reason), and that the conversion from T4 to T3 works fine.

What would be a good source of fat to replace the rapeseed oil in my diet? You gotta get your fat calories from somewhere, right?

ATM I'm eating a macronutrient split of roughly 40 carbs, 30 protein and 30 fat. Carbs mostly from oats, rye bread (dark & grainy), apples, bananas, carrots, assorted berries, and tomato paste. Protein from lean red meats, chicken, occasionally fish, eggs, curd cheese (dairy product also known as quark cheese.. high protein, almost zero fat and sugar), fat & sugarfree yoghurt, cheese, milk, protein shakes.
I get my fats from rapeseed oil (not a good idea?) and very dark chocolate (minimum 70% cocoa content). Also occasionally use small amounts of olive oil.

I also try to eat lots of veggies such as salad, cucumber etc, and generally vary my diet from day to day, sticking with what I've established as 'healthy' foods and rotating them.

Any suggestions on how to improve, and more importantly, what to take in place of rapeseed oil?

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by hardasnails1973

GET IODINE LEVELS CHECKED VIA URINE LOAD !!
GOTO SEARCH AND PUT IN IODINE URINE TEST and you will get the link


Main cause for my demise was excessive omega 3 from flax seed oil for so many years this drove my arachonconic acid into the ground causing basically my hypothalamus to goto sleep because with out AA zinc is not transported hence LH,thyroid, adrenals go ape shit misfiring all over the place. Well i think you just answered your own question RAPE SEED WILL SHUT YOU DOWN FASTER THEN ANYTHING IT IS HIGH GOITEREINIC

SpringerLink - Journal Article
The results obtained indicate that rapeseed oil, and specifically its unsaponifiable fraction, contain a factor (or factors) which interferes with the ability of the thyroid gland to accumulate iodine from the plasma, but which does not seem to prevent the binding of iodine in organic form. For this reason, the thyroid gland itself becomes deficient in iodine, with the consequence that the synthesis of thyroxine is reduced and the secretion of thyrotrophic hormone increased. The result is hypothyroidism, despite the presence of an adequate amount of iodine in the diet.

great keep continuing and your thyroid will be in the shitter
google hypothyroid and rapeseed
BTW is actually a poison used to kill insects LOL

To complicated, just call it

canola oil

now we need the names of margarines made using rapeseed oil.