weekly shots not availlable in uk-alternatives? and DIM questions

[masterpp]

guys my endo just got back to me to tell me that weekly shots aren't available in the uk, ie no one markets a weekly concentration.

1.i was wondering what was the best alternative, keeping in mind that i want anabolic results as im trying to shift stubborn fat on my chest ect, does anyone know what is the nearest thing or available in the UK.

2. also, from experience how low can one go before ones e2 becomes too low. i have a dim product called biodim from the vitamin research products, which is 75mg of propritetary blend dim in each cap, with added ingredients phosphatidylcholine and vit e.

occassionally i have taken this, one or two caps and woke up the next morning feeling shattered. but at the same time time, i often getting anxiety from what i believe to be overly high e2. do you think this stuff would be potent enough to cause me to go too low overnight- it doesnt contain indolyplex!

cheers guys

[pmgamer18]

But you can do shots everyweek in the UK I have talked to guys that do it. 100mgs a week.

Sustanon
"Sustanon" is the brand name for a blend of four testosterone esters: testosterone propionate (C3H6O2), testosterone phenylpropionate (C9H10O2), testosterone isocaproate (C6H12O2), and testosterone decanoate (C10H20O2). It features both fast-acting and slow-acting esters, and can be injected anywhere from once every week to once every four weeks. It is prescribed outside of the United States.

As for the DIM your taking did you test to see if your E2 is high if it is not and you take this you will crash over night.

Originally Posted by masterpp

guys my endo just got back to me to tell me that weekly shots aren't available in the uk, ie no one markets a weekly concentration.

1.i was wondering what was the best alternative, keeping in mind that i want anabolic results as im trying to shift stubborn fat on my chest ect, does anyone know what is the nearest thing or available in the UK.

2. also, from experience how low can one go before ones e2 becomes too low. i have a dim product called biodim from the vitamin research products, which is 75mg of propritetary blend dim in each cap, with added ingredients phosphatidylcholine and vit e.

occassionally i have taken this, one or two caps and woke up the next morning feeling shattered. but at the same time time, i often getting anxiety from what i believe to be overly high e2. do you think this stuff would be potent enough to cause me to go too low overnight- it doesnt contain indolyplex!

cheers guys

[masterpp]

oh is sustanon the brand name.
perhaps if the endo looked up sustanon its suggested that it only works over two weeks.

is sustanon the alternative, or the actual weekly shot i should be doing

[CaesarWilliam]

Hey man just thought I'd put in my two cents.

Sostenan is some TERRIBLE shit for the purpose of test replacement. It is too unpredictable. If you are having E2 problems, switch to Test Enanthate or Cypionate(in america). Test E is MUCH better as the curve of release is more gentle.

Sostenon has four seperate tests in it. This is great if you need a little fluctuation like when bodybuilding, but with replacement doses it has a tendancy to cause irregular estrogen buildup. This happend to me. Where I live Sos is cheap and Enathate is expensive. Because I used to use Sos for building purposes, I assumed it would be great for maintenance. HELL NO! Swithed to Test E and doing MUCh better. E2 is easyer to control. Also, Sos stays in your system active for at least 15 days. Far too long.

But pg18 is very knowledgeable. He's right about the DIM

[masterpp]

hey guys thanks for the help.

so i guys sustanon is out then, if you dont think its a good iea. i dont know whether or not test e or c is available in the uk. all i know is that the endo said that you cant get a product for weekly injecting in the uk

test e and c may be available, but probs only in two weekly dosages. what is the trade name of test e or c.

re the dim, i assumed my e2 must be off as my test level was good. my shbg was a little low i think though, and my dht was a little high. i dont really have lebido, im still getting hot flashes and putting on weight, so i assumed it must be e2.

x

[1ainslie]

You can get enanthate on NHS in UK it comes in 250 ml which BNF says it is for 2 weeks. However I inject myself twice a week with 50mg. Your doctor can explain how to keep the excess SAFELY until your next injection.

Originally Posted by masterpp

hey guys thanks for the help.

so i guys sustanon is out then, if you dont think its a good iea. i dont know whether or not test e or c is available in the uk. all i know is that the endo said that you cant get a product for weekly injecting in the uk

test e and c may be available, but probs only in two weekly dosages. what is the trade name of test e or c.

re the dim, i assumed my e2 must be off as my test level was good. my shbg was a little low i think though, and my dht was a little high. i dont really have lebido, im still getting hot flashes and putting on weight, so i assumed it must be e2.

x

[love_en]

A weekly shot is not available in the UK if you are going through a doctor who is insistent on doing things the wrong way. Testosterone enanthate is available in 250 mg ampules. If the contents of that ampule are transferred into a sterile vial and 100-125 mg are injected every week, that is far better than the 250 mg every two weeks. Is there any reason why you cannot do your own injections? I learned how on my own and have not looked back. Testosterone enanthate is very good stuff for TRT if it is administered properly.

[1ainslie]

Are you injecting 100mg once a week, do you feel good for the whole week on it, any fluctuations, any blood tests?

Originally Posted by love_en

A weekly shot is not available in the UK if you are going through a doctor who is insistent on doing things the wrong way. Testosterone enanthate is available in 250 mg ampules. If the contents of that ampule are transferred into a sterile vial and 100-125 mg are injected every week, that is far better than the 250 mg every two weeks. Is there any reason why you cannot do your own injections? I learned how on my own and have not looked back. Testosterone enanthate is very good stuff for TRT if it is administered properly.

[Naturdoc]

DIM doesn't reduce E2 levels., it only helps metabolize estrogen to less active 2oh- froms rather than 16oh forms. It shouldn't cause gastric upset either, maybe try another brand.

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by CaesarWilliam

Hey man just thought I'd put in my two cents.

Sostenan is some TERRIBLE shit for the purpose of test replacement. It is too unpredictable. If you are having E2 problems, switch to Test Enanthate or Cypionate(in america). Test E is MUCH better as the curve of release is more gentle.

Sostenon has four seperate tests in it. This is great if you need a little fluctuation like when bodybuilding, but with replacement doses it has a tendancy to cause irregular estrogen buildup. This happend to me. Where I live Sos is cheap and Enathate is expensive. Because I used to use Sos for building purposes, I assumed it would be great for maintenance. HELL NO! Swithed to Test E and doing MUCh better. E2 is easyer to control. Also, Sos stays in your system active for at least 15 days. Far too long.

But pg18 is very knowledgeable. He's right about the DIM

This is all they have it the UK's system you need the 100mgs. dose and you would do it every week CaesarWilliam is right it dose not work as good a the others like Depo but you can get them. All you can do is try it I have talked to men that did ok on it. The gels did not work for them.

[love_en]

Originally Posted by 1ainslie

Are you injecting 100mg once a week, do you feel good for the whole week on it, any fluctuations, any blood tests?

Yes I am. I feel very good throughout the week. Fortunately for me, one injection per week works out very well. 250 mg every two weeks does not work. on the 10th day I start to feel weak, bitchy, lose my appetite and revert to how I was before TRT. I do not have any blood work to monitor my treatment. I am one of the guys who is forced to treat myself. The doctors in my area, will not diagnose and treat hypogonadism.

[masterpp]

awesome guys thank you

so the confusion was that enathenate is available, but that it only comes in 250 ml ampules-

by the sound of it, once cracked the ampules cannot be reused, so they need to be discarded.

if i can get sterile vials, ill transfer the stuff across and do 100 every week.

perfect.

does every one agree that enathenate is better than sustenon

cheers

[CaesarWilliam]

Just load it in two syrenges and save one for next week. I do multi-week injections w/test and load my week's syrenges on Sundays.

[masterpp]

two questions about enanthenate

does it come in large vials, and can it be kept at room temperature for a while.

my idea was to either get a months supply in a vial, and take what i need from it as i need it, or to get several little ampps and decant them into a large vial, which i can draw from.

it just makes it easier to travel with.
i cant really do this though with my hcg as it goes off too quickly.

x

[Andrew Androgen]

If you buy the test enanthate in powder form from a chemical company in China, you can save a bunch. 50g of powder is just $80 USD plus delivery, which will last you many years. From everyone I've spoken to in the UK, 50g of test powder sent in a flat envelope gets the ok from customs every time. You then only have to mix the test powder with 2 different solvents & some oil & filter it into sterile vials. There are recipes online. It's as easy as making pancakes. Probably easier!